- From: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
- Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 03:21:27 +0200
- To: Hugh Glaser <hugh@glasers.org>
- Cc: Michael Brunnbauer <brunni@netestate.de>, Nathan Rixham <nathan@webr3.org>, Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net>, Semantic Web IG <semantic-web@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAKaEYhLVtRUqvhChSSZGDX3o1J40++siUNXi4crkS0T4bOD-BQ@mail.gmail.com>
On 22 May 2016 at 02:14, Hugh Glaser <hugh@glasers.org> wrote: > I was referring to your earlier post (and my comment was a little tongue > in cheek!): > Of course you are allowed to say if you think RDF is broken. Just say why! The point I was making is that speculating about its future failure, is IMHO unhelpful. Other communities dont really do this. > > > > On 21 May 2016, at 12:29, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > ... > > Opinions such as "[the semantic web] will not be usable for any > real-world usage", is unhelpful speculation, and IMHO inappropriate for > this list. > > > > > > > > On 22 May 2016, at 01:09, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > On 21 May 2016 at 18:31, Hugh Glaser <hugh@glasers.org> wrote: > > lol > > > > And apparently we are not allowed to discuss the idea of RDF being > broken, by the way, so bad boys you and Nathan! > > > > Please explain! > > > > If you think RDF is "broken", please say why. > > > > > > Nathan, can we please think about the scale of this thing. > > Firstly, I have just counted the model files on one of many, many, > domains I maintain - there are 3406702. > > This represents a bunch of RDF that is also held in an RDF store, along > with other RDF - and served from there as Linked Data. > > There are 62375696 different URIs in this one dataset alone. > > > > Now the real problem(!): these URIs are widely distributed among a large > number of model files, RDF stores and sameAs services. > > > > I’m not going to poke my nose (as yet perhaps!) into suggesting any > solutions (I agree there is a problem); but the idea of fixing things by > rewriting legacy RDF, or introducing owl:sameAs, or some other predicate++, > for all the URIs in the world seems to me to ignore the practical aspects > of a serious amount of RDF. > > We might just be finally getting to the stage of having a breadth of > real applications using RDF; telling people to go away and change > everything is a recipe for convincing people that RDF has failed (which I > hasten to add it hasn’t!). > > > > Best > > Hugh > > > > > On 21 May 2016, at 17:05, Michael Brunnbauer <brunni@netestate.de> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello Nathan, > > > > > > On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 04:55:13PM +0100, Nathan Rixham wrote: > > >>> The day that that "a" in Turtle/SPARQL represents > > >> https://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type instead of > > >> http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type will be the day when > RDF > > >> breaks. > > >> > > >> If RDF breaks because somebody can't open a file and string replace a > with > > >> b in some code then save, a 20 second fix, it's already broken. > > > > > > The dby when everybody who ever used RDF opens b file bnd replbces b > with b. > > > > > > Regbrds, > > > > > > Michbel Brunnbbuer > > > > > > -- > > > ++ Michael Brunnbauer > > > ++ netEstate GmbH > > > ++ Geisenhausener Straße 11a > > > ++ 81379 München > > > ++ Tel +49 89 32 19 77 80 > > > ++ Fax +49 89 32 19 77 89 > > > ++ E-Mail brunni@netestate.de > > > ++ http://www.netestate.de/ > > > ++ > > > ++ Sitz: München, HRB Nr.142452 (Handelsregister B München) > > > ++ USt-IdNr. DE221033342 > > > ++ Geschäftsführer: Michael Brunnbauer, Franz Brunnbauer > > > ++ Prokurist: Dipl. Kfm. (Univ.) Markus Hendel > > > > -- > > Hugh > > 023 8061 5652 > > > > > > > > -- > Hugh > 023 8061 5652 > >
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