- From: Simon Spero <sesuncedu@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 13:16:42 -0400
- To: "Gray, Alasdair" <A.J.G.Gray@hw.ac.uk>
- Cc: semantic-web@w3.org, "Peter F. Patel-Schneider" <pfpschneider@gmail.com>, Mark Diggory <mdiggory@gmail.com>, Phillip Lord <phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk>, W3C LOD Mailing List <public-lod@w3.org>
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On Oct 8, 2014 10:15 AM, "Gray, Alasdair" <A.J.G.Gray@hw.ac.uk> wrote: > Or is that because they want to import it into their own reference management system, e.g. Mendeley, which does not support the HTML version? 1. It is quite easy to embedded metadata in HTML pages in forms designed for accurate importing into reference managers (Hellman 2009). Mendeley has been known to have problems with imports in cases where a proxy server is involved. COinS does have the slight problem of being kind of being based on top of OpenURL, which is made of lose (Hellman 2010) , but is the current least bad solution. 2. There is ongoing work to create a decent ontology for better embedding. The BibEx work for schema.org is going in the right direction (Bibex 2014). The Library of Congress BIBFRAME effort (LC 2014) is going in the right direction iff the right direction is defined as straight off a cliff - see eg Spero (2013) 2. There is a good comparison of Docear, Mendeley,and Zotero available in Beel (2014), which is remarkably balanced given that he is the PI for Docear. He includes a link to an earlier post mocking several completely unbalanced comparison charts prepared by different vendors (he finishes by making a similar chart showing Docear is the only possible choice. Table snark FTW.) My personal favorite tool is Bibdesk (2014), which is Mac and bibtex specific, but justifies this by using many Mac specific capabilities. There is some support for integration into word (Don't mention the Word. I mentioned it once but I think I got away with it.) 3. All of these tools could benefit from even simple subsumption reasoning (although vocabularies like the LCSH have errors that lead to amusing and frustrating results - everything about doorbells is also about mammals, eschatology, the soul, and psychotherapy (Spero 2008). It is important to recognize the difference between a knowledge organization system, for describing intentional concepts, and knowledge representation systems, for describing a view of reality. Leonard Cohen via Elaine Svenonius authorizes laughing at people who confuse the two. http://ibiblio.org/ses/anyqs.jpg 3. Extended rants on misunderstandings of plausible Ontologies and ontologies of the Bibliographic Universe omitted (cough SKOS cough). Simon References Beel, Jorean (2014) . Comprehensive Comparison of Reference Managers : Mendeley vs. Zotero vs. Docear. Available at http://www.docear.org/2014/01/15/comprehensive-comparison-of-reference-managers-mendeley-vs-zotero-vs-docear/ Bibdesk (2014). Bibdesk wiki: Main Page. Available at http://sourceforge.net/p/bibdesk/wiki/Main_Page/ BibEx (2014). Schema Bib Extend Community Group Wiki: Main Page. Available at http://www.w3.org/community/schemabibex/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page Hellman, Eric (2009). OpenURL COinS : A convention to embed bibliographic metadata in HTML. Available at http://ocoins.info Hellman, Eric (2010). It's cool to hate on OpenURL (was Re: Twitter Annotations). Available at https://listserv.nd.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=CODE4LIB;axd%2FoQ;201004291208400400 https://www.mail-archive.com/code4lib@listserv.nd.edu/msg07857.html LC (2014). BIBFRAME : Bibliographic Framework Initiative. Available at http://www.loc.gov/bibframe/ Spero, Simon (2008). LCSH is to Thesaurus as Doorbell is to Mammal: visualizing structural problems in the Library of Congress subject headings. In Proceedings of the 2008 International Conference on Dublin Core and Metadata Applications. DCMI. Available at: http://iBiblio.org/ses/poster.pdf Spero, Simon (2013). Prolegomena to any future metadata. Available at http://www.ibiblio.org/fred2.0/wordpress/?p=269
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