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Re: Peer-to-Peer Economy Proposal - Revision of A Distributed Economy - A blog involving Linked Data

From: ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <metadataportals@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 07:41:21 -0800 (PST)
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To: Brent Shambaugh <brent.shambaugh@gmail.com>, "semantic-web@w3.org" <semantic-web@w3.org>
I checked out the Sensorica website and found their philosophy a bit confusing, particularly 

SENSORICA is partially a market-based economy and partially a gift economy.

You cannot have your cake and eat it too, because in the end the market-based economy part will eat up the gift economy part.

The assumptions about what constitutes open value based systems is based on a  wrong approach at Sensorica because mathemicatically incompatible approaches are being forced into one model.


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On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 12:32 AM, Brent Shambaugh <brent.shambaugh@gmail.com> wrote:
 
Wahoo! I am going to meet with the team at Sensorica (sensorica.co) about my "P2P World-OS: A P2P Enterprise Platform" paper this Friday. They seem to enjoy it because it contains so much information which includes things such as webpayments, ripple, bitcoin, peer-to-peer computing, the ISO 15926 standard for interoperability, semantic overlay networks, etc. It was great for me because it taught me about all the issues that are being encountered as well as potential uses for things such as FOAF+SSL, WebID, and the ACL Ontology and how it differs in use from HTTPKeys. Obviously something smaller will need to get built first, but I suppose it could help for those who are wondering about all sorts of web technologies. -Brent




On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Brent Shambaugh <brent.shambaugh@gmail.com> wrote:

I certainly agree there may be political issues,  but after reading a lot about these technologies, I am becoming more confident in their potential. The beauty is people do not have to agree on everything, but can share information so they can work together (limited by computer science issues)...and hopefully it will work on both a local and global level for collaboration. I think it already does happen with the current web, just not as well as it could. Doug Englebart spoke of a co-evolution where technology and human systems worked together for change. 
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>On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 9:29 AM, ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <metadataportals@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>Dear Brent,
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>>The general framework for such models was defined by the UN and is commonly known as Local Agenda 21, unfortunately no-one yet has been able to figure out how to make Agenda 21 (global sustainable development) and Local Agenda 21 work, because the ruling elite of economists was asked to come up with the new paradigms.
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>>See the irony and contradictions?
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>>Milton Ponson
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>>Aruba, Dutch Caribbean
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>>On Thursday, January 16, 2014 12:24 AM, Brent Shambaugh <brent.shambaugh@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>This is the 1st paragraph: "We need a system that encourages learning and creates business and 
research opportunities through self-organization. The traditional model 
is failing us. We must go beyond the traditional model and personalize 
education, business, and research with self-organization, so that 
individuals can contribute their own ideas and work together toward 
common goals."
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>>On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Brent Shambaugh <brent.shambaugh@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>Dear all,
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>>>This is as dirty as dirty can be, but it is up on the web as a .html document. I haven't done any economic modelling, although it is probably within my mental ability and to extent my training (I was exposed to statistical thermodynamics, molecular dynamics, and density functional theory ... it's funny how it reminds me of Gephi at gephi.org). It is more of an exploration dealing with semantic web technologies in a peer-to-peer way.
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>>>http://bshambaugh.org/Master_14.html
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>>>-Brent
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>>>On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 12:30 PM, ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <metadataportals@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>>Brent,
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>>>>Can you point out the link to the 20 page document? Have you done your research on like minded researchers and institutes dealing with distributed and local node centered economies modeling/
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>>>>Milton Ponson
>>>>GSM: +297 747 8280
>>>>PO Box 1154, Oranjestad
>>>>Aruba, Dutch Caribbean
>>>>Project Paradigm: A structured approach to bringing the tools for sustainable development to all stakeholders worldwide by creating ICT tools for NGOs worldwide and: providing online access to web sites and repositories of data and information for sustainable development
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>>>>On Friday, December 20, 2013 6:00 AM, Michael Brunnbauer <brunni@netestate.de> wrote:
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>>>>Hello Brent,
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>>>>On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 03:09:46PM -0600, Brent Shambaugh wrote:
>>>>> Since my post on the public-lod mailing list announcing
>>>>> http://adistributedeconomy.blogspot.com, I manged to organize my thinking
>>>>> into a document that is about 20 pages long with over 100 references.
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>>>>And where is that document ?
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>>>>It seems that "The Network" should get Time person of the year real soon.
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>>>>You may find this interesting, especially Chapter 9:
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>>>>http://necsi.edu/publications/dcs/index.html
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>>>>The conclusion seems to be to trust the invisible hand. Or - as I would put it:
>>>>"Resistance is futile - you will be assimilated".
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>>>>It is difficult to find the transition from science to nonsense in this book :-)
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>>>>Regards,
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>>>>Michael Brunnbauer
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