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Re: Is science on sale this week?

From: Leon Derczynski <leon@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 13:19:38 +0200
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To: Peter Murray-Rust <pm286@cam.ac.uk>
Cc: beyond-the-pdf@googlegroups.com, Alexander Garcia Castro <alexgarciac@gmail.com>, Sarven Capadisli <info@csarven.ca>, Linking Open Data <public-lod@w3.org>, SW-forum <semantic-web@w3.org>
ACL has been doing this (open everything) for a long time, for conferences,
workshops and journals, and it works very well, in a very simple format (
http://aclweb.org/anthology-new/ ) - if a similar initiative & body were to
take this role for I/ESWC, it would be surely welcome. It also causes fewer
indexing problems to automatic bibliographic systems (e.g. dblp, google
scholar) than does arXiv.

Springer are charging astronomical fees to make things open, essentially
reverting to a high-priced pay-to-publish model that we typically disregard
as being a scam. The big publishers share the prestige heritage of
well-recognised journals, but nothing more.

On 14 May 2013 12:10, Peter Murray-Rust <pm286@cam.ac.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Phillip Lord <
> phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk> wrote:
>> Dump Springer, and just publish the results on arXiv. If ESWC cannot
>> organise a conference at 800 Euro a pop, without cash from Springer,
>> then perhaps they should try getting a cheaper venue.
>> Better still, let's separate out the committees, the publication, and
>> the conference. The committees can look at papers, they can all be
>> published on arxiv. And people who want can go to the conference.
> Fully agreed.
> How about the idea of "Open Conference", similar to (BOAI) Open Access,
> Open data, Open Source... That does not mean the conference does not cost
> money - but that the procedures and the results are Open.
> And if Springer are serious about being an "Open Access" publisher they
> could then offer to run it as Open Conference.
>  P.
> --
> Peter Murray-Rust
> Reader in Molecular Informatics
> Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry
> University of Cambridge
> CB2 1EW, UK
> +44-1223-763069

Leon R A Derczynski
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