- From: Dieter Fensel <dieter.fensel@sti2.at>
- Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2013 18:16:37 +0200
- To: Pascal Hitzler <pascal.hitzler@wright.edu>, Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org>
- Cc: SW-forum Web <semantic-web@w3.org>
+1 At 04:42 PM 6/1/2013, Pascal Hitzler wrote: >Dear Tim, > >I'm sure there will be an update of our write-up, considering all >the feedback we received. > >Concerning the "Open" issue: > >I'm guilty of not always being clear about the destinction between >LD and LOD. In fact I believe many people are not clear about it. We >should ask why they are not. And in fact our little write-up exposes >one probably reason: The notion simply is rather unclear. "Linked >Open Data must have an open licence" is - in the light of the >analysis in the paper - almost meaningless, as "openness" of >licences is not a boolean. There are many shades to it, and most of >these shades do not allow readily for commercialization. > >Concerning the title issue: > >I agree the choice of title is provocative and probably >"unacademic". The colloquial language used in the paper is also >"unacademic". However, as the main purpose of the write-up is to >stimulate discussion on the topic - the title serves this purpose >very well I think. However, I admit I rather like your laternative >suggestions :) > >Best Regards, > >Pascal. > > >On 5/23/2013 10:09 AM, Tim Berners-Lee wrote: >>(not sure why this, which I wrote ages ago, is sitting again >>in a window on my computer. Apologies if it was already sent before!). >> >> >>Short version: Please change LD to LOD throughout. >> >>A little while ago, when we had made the 5* linked data mug, >>http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/diagrams/lod/480759174v0_350x350_Back.jpg >>I got a valid objection to it from the people doing >>for example enterprise linked data that their client's >>data was generally extremely confidential and no way >>would it be open, and the 5 star principle were really >>valuable for interoperability, but the clients were scared >>off by the fact that they could not even get one star without being open. >> >>So that led to a big change, and more careful wording >>and a (then) new mug. >>http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/diagrams/lod/597992118v2_350x350_Back.jpg >> >> The new mug has in black, the Linked Data story, and in green, stamped on >>"OPEN" to make the "Linked Data" become "Linked Open Data", >>and also in green "Open Licence" added to the requirements for the >>first star. >>So the mug works two ways. >>Without the green, it is about Linked Data (LD). >> If you include the green (e.g. wearing rose-coloured spectacles) >>it becomes a recipe for Linked Open Data (LOD). >> >>To have even 1 star, Linked Open Data must have an open licence. >>other wise it is not Linked Open Data at all. >> >>Meanwhile, 5* linked data (like my financial data >>for my taxes) can be completely private. >> >>The ability to discuss the different star levels of >>Linked Data is important too. >> >>This distinction has been really important >>to a lot of people's understanding and to the >>businesses in the space. >> >>So when your article is ONLY about the openness, >>about the need for linked Open data to be open, >>it is a big problem that you use the wrong term! >> >>There is lots of money in Enterprise Application Integration >>which is not what you are doing. >> >>I would ask you to update the paper. >>I strongly suggest you update the PDFs you have in place with >>a back-link to the original. >> >>Please edit the paper and basically put "Linked Open Data" and LOD >>wherever you are >>talking about it, not "Linked Data" and LD. >> >>Because the points that you make are generally important >>and interesting and I'd like to be able to point to the paper. >> >>I have other comments about the actual content, but >>this is more important. >> >>The title... must be something more appropriate >>"Commercial use of Linked Open Data stymied by Licence Issues" >>"LOD re-use plagued by lack of suitable licence" >>"Viral or missing licenses hamper LOD uptake" >>... or something.... >> >>Thanking you in advance. >> >>Tim >> >> >> >>On 2013-05 -17, at 22:13, Pascal Hitzler wrote: >> >>>We just finished a piece indicating serious legal issues regarding >>>the commercialization of Linked Data - this may be of general >>>interest, hence the post. We hope to stimulate discussions on this >>>issue (hence the provokative title). >>> >>>Available from >>>http://knoesis.wright.edu/faculty/pascal/pub/nomoneylod.pdf >>> >>>Abstract. >>>Linked Data (LD) has been an active research area for more than 6 >>>years and many aspects about publishing, retrieving, linking, and >>>cleaning Linked Data have been investigated. There seems to be a >>>broad and general agreement that in principle LD datasets can be >>>very useful for solving a wide variety of problems ranging from >>>practical industrial analytics to highly specific research >>>problems. Having these notions in mind, we started exploring the >>>use of notable LD datasets such as DBpedia, Freebase, Geonames and >>>others for a commercial application. However, it turns out that >>>using these datasets in realistic settings is not always easy. >>>Surprisingly, in many cases the underlying issues are not >>>technical but legal barriers erected by the LD data publishers. In >>>this paper we argue that these barriers are often not justified, >>>detrimental to both data publishers and users, and are often built >>>without much consideration of their consequences. >>> >>>Authors: >>>Prateek Jain, Pascal Hitzler, Krzysztof Janowicz, Chitra Venkatramani >>> >>>-- >>>Prof. Dr. Pascal Hitzler >>>Kno.e.sis Center, Wright State University, Dayton, OH >>>pascal@pascal-hitzler.de http://www.knoesis.org/pascal/ >>>Semantic Web Textbook: http://www.semantic-web-book.org >>>Semantic Web Journal: http://www.semantic-web-journal.net >>> >>> >> >> >> > >-- >Prof. Dr. Pascal Hitzler >Kno.e.sis Center, Wright State University, Dayton, OH >pascal@pascal-hitzler.de http://pascal-hitzler.de/ >Semantic Web Textbook: http://www.semantic-web-book.org/ >Semantic Web Journal: http://www.semantic-web-journal.net/ > > -- Dieter Fensel Director STI Innsbruck, University of Innsbruck, Austria http://www.sti-innsbruck.at/ phone: +43-512-507-6488/5, fax: +43-512-507-9872
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