- From: Bernard Vatant <bernard.vatant@mondeca.com>
- Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:36:18 +0200
- To: María Poveda <mpoveda@delicias.dia.fi.upm.es>
- Cc: Semantic Web <semantic-web@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAK4ZFVF2TpGT=ZBLmt5p0RUnV3W0z0d2aozhO2Cxxa9Ur69YzA@mail.gmail.com>
Hello Maria That's a very good example of glitches that can occur when the different files you can access through a vocabulary namespace are not consistent with each other. Happy coincidence I just sent this morning a message to Yves Raymond regarding the status of this important and very much reused vocabulary which has not been updated for almost five years. [1]. I guess it will be another good reason to look into it. Thanks for your contribution! Bernard [1] http://lov.okfn.org/dataset/lov/details/vocabulary_event.html 2012/9/10 María Poveda <mpoveda@delicias.dia.fi.upm.es> > Hi Bernard, > > Thanks for sharing! > > I've also been looking at this topic. Very interesting. I've got a few > similar cases to add. For example: > > I realized that in the ontologies importing > "http://purl.org/NET/c4dm/event.owl" the relationships > "http://purl.org/NET/c4dm/event.owl#place" and > "http://purl.org/NET/c4dm/event.owl#time" are not defined as > functional object properties. However, in the file I downloaded from > "http://motools.sourceforge.net/event/event.html" they are defined as > functional object properties. It shouldn't happen when your are using > owl:imports. > > It should be note that "http://purl.org/NET/c4dm/event.owl" is > redirected to "http://motools.sourceforge.net/event/event.html" when > using a web browser or when the http request asks for an html > document. From this website I manually downloaded a .n3 file > (http://motools.sf.net/event/event.122.n3) that I consider the > reference file for this ontology. However, when accesing the > "http://purl.org/NET/c4dm/event.owl" URI using JENA, Ontology > editors, or asking for rdf+xml content type, the server redirects to > "http://motools.sourceforge.net/event/event.rdf". > > The problem was the properties (#time and #place) are defined as > funcional in the n3 file but not in the rdf one. Just to note, in both > files the base ontology URI is "http://purl.org/NET/c4dm/event.owl". > > > Cheers, > > María > > On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Bernard Vatant > <bernard.vatant@mondeca.com> wrote: > > Hello all > > > > Having harvested as of today 280 vocabularies/ontologies at > > http://lov.okfn.org/dataset/lov > > We have stumbled on all possible (I think) configurations regarding > > vocabulary URI (or IRI) and namespace, and it's sometimes driving me > nuts :) > > > > A common (best?) practice is to declare the vocabulary URI as a base URI > > without any trailing # or /, to make it distinct from the ontology > > namespace. > > > > Example 1 : c4o > > > > URI : http://purl.org/spar/c4o > > namespace : http://purl.org/spar/c4o/ > > > > Example 2 : c4n > > > > URI : http://vocab.deri.ie/c4n > > namespace : http://vocab.deri.ie/c4n# > > > > In both cases the vocabulary URI is declared formally using owl:Ontology. > > > > In both cases the root URI and the namespace resolve and conneg nicely. > > > > In the second example the namespace is formally declared using > > vann:preferredNamespaceUri, which is nice to have > > > > There are also many cases where the namespace is used more or less > > explicitly as the vocabulary URI. > > > > Example 4 : dcterms > > > > Both http://purl.org/dc/terms/ and http://purl.org/dc/terms currently > > resolve to http://dublincore.org/2012/06/14/dcterms.rdf where one can > find : > > > > <rdf:Description rdf:about="http://purl.org/dc/terms/"> etc > > although this is not a owl:Ontology declaration, this implicitly > indicates > > http://purl.org/dc/terms/ as the URI of the vocabulary.(would be better > if > > explicit ...) > > > > Using purl, it's often the case that the root URI does not even resolve. > > > > Example 4 : af > > > > The namespace URI : http://purl.org/ontology/af/ > > > > ... redirects to http://motools.sourceforge.net/doc/audio_features.rdf > > > > ... where one can read > > <owl:Ontology > > > rdf:about="file:///home/moustaki/work/workspace/motools/af/rdf/audio_features.n3"> > > > > whereas http://purl.org/ontology/af is 404 > > > > This example is a bit extreme (apologies to Yves for pointing that > publicly) > > but we have all sorts of in-between, such as no owl:Ontology declaration > at > > all, or lazy owl:Ontology rdf:about="" combined with redirection so > it's to > > everyone guess what to put in the "" ... > > > > So my question is : should the practice of examples 1 and 2 be > recommended > > as the best one, namely : > > > > - Use a root URI (without either trailing # or / or file extension) as > the > > vocabulary URI > > - Declare it formally using a owl:Ontology declaration in the RDF, and > > explicitly in the HTML documentation > > - Make this root URI resolve to both vocabulary file and documentation > using > > proper content negociation > > > > Plus (nice to have) > > > > - Declare explicitly the vocabulary namespace URI (either / or #) using > > vann:preferredNamespaceUri (not only xmlns) > > - Have the namespace resolve to the root URI > > > > Thanks for comments ! > > > > Bernard > > > > -- > > Bernard Vatant > > Vocabularies & Data Engineering > > Tel : + 33 (0)9 71 48 84 59 > > Skype : bernard.vatant > > Blog : the wheel and the hub > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > Mondeca > > 3 cité Nollez 75018 Paris, France > > www.mondeca.com > > Follow us on Twitter : @mondecanews > > > -- *Bernard Vatant * Vocabularies & Data Engineering Tel : + 33 (0)9 71 48 84 59 Skype : bernard.vatant Blog : the wheel and the hub <http://blog.hubjects.com/> -------------------------------------------------------- *Mondeca** ** * 3 cité Nollez 75018 Paris, France www.mondeca.com Follow us on Twitter : @mondecanews <http://twitter.com/#%21/mondecanews>
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