- From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
- Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 14:55:36 -0400
- To: Eric Franzon <eric@semanticweb.com>
- CC: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>, Aidan Hogan <aidan.hogan@deri.org>, "public-lod@w3.org" <public-lod@w3.org>, "semantic-web@w3.org" <semantic-web@w3.org>, "public-rww@w3.org" <public-rww@w3.org>
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On 5/18/12 1:39 PM, Eric Franzon wrote: > I also am still not getting to view GKG enrichments either. It truly > seems to be a gradual roll-out (as Google confirmed to us yesterday: > http://semanticweb.com/google-knowledge-graph-interview_b29172). I > have tried all three of my Google accounts, all of which have > completed profiles, but to no avail. Remember, my *theory* is that this is an early example of a profile-driven-service roll-out. Nothing wrong with that, but Google made some disconcerting mistakes. Here's my sequence of events: 1. I open up the doc at: http://www.google.com/insidesearch/features/search/knowledge.html, following the service announcement 2. clicked on the "Give it a try" link 3. saw nothing 4. 24 hours later (yesterday EST) I stumbled across Paul's post (as per Twitter thread that ensued) 5. kicked off experiment to test my theory. At step 1 above, nothing from Google indicated to me that if don't see anything it was due to staggered roll-out. In short, the disclaimer still doesn't exist on that page. However you look at it, this is an algorithm gone wrong, and it does have implications. > > What the representative we interviewed indicated is that they are > rolling out slowly to account holders "over the next few days." THEN, > they will begin with general Google.com visitors. And then I suspect > they will (again gradually) start rolling it out across other global > Googles. All vague commentary, the kind that is kinda scary and a little creepy. Again, I doubt it was intentional, but there are some realities bubbling up to the surface re. profiles and the Web etc.. > > I was interested in Kingsley's experiment because it was based on the > theory that some measure of "social influence" might be at play in the > algorithm. While my ego might certainly wish to believe that I (and > semanticweb.com <http://semanticweb.com>) have such influence, I > acknowledge that Danny Sullivan, Kara Swisher, et al probably have > more in the broader tech world. ;-) It isn't so simple. There are many other factors in play. There was a degree of profiling involved (nothing wrong with that per se.) that wasn't handled properly (IMHO). > > Of course, if Google would mention "Semantic Web" in their marketing > material or acknowledge any of the other work that has come before, > that would no doubt help with the "influence" of all of us on these > lists. But I digress... for more on /that/ perspective, you may wish > to see Sean Golliher's editorial which will be published at > SemanticWeb.com at the top of the next hour (2:00pm ET in the US). Will take a look, its 2.55pm EST right now :-) Kingsley > > Cheers, > --Eric > > > > On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org > <mailto:ivan@w3.org>> wrote: > > Well... I tried this trick, but does not change a thing. Yes, the > search happens on www.google.com <http://www.google.com>, but I > presume it knows that I am, hm, considered as Dutch and sticks to > its guns: I see nothing of the GKG on my screen. > > Ivan > > On May 18, 2012, at 17:57 , Aidan Hogan wrote: > > > All, > > > > On 18/05/2012 05:51, Eric Franzon wrote: > >> Actually, some modest testing has shown something other than > geography at play here. Earlier today, colleagues in London and > California were able to see GKG rich data visualizations, while > others in the US (myself included -- also in California) and > Europe could not. > >> > >> I spoke to a Google representative this afternoon who confirmed > the gradual roll-out, but would not (or could not) discuss the > algorithm. He did hint that people with Google accounts will be > first to see the enhancements. > > > > In my experience, the most reliable way to see GKG in action is: > > > > Visit http://google.com/ncr > > (the "/ncr" suffix stops you redirecting to a local version) > > > > Be logged in with a Google account. > > > > Try a typical entity search (e.g., "Galway"). > > > > Cheers, > > Aidan > > > ---- > Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead > Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ > mobile: +31-641044153 <tel:%2B31-641044153> > FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf > > > > > > > > > -- > *Eric Axel Franzon* > Vice President of Community > SemanticWeb.com > 6080 Center Dr., 6th Floor > Los Angeles, CA 90045 > > eric@semanticweb.com <mailto:eric@semanticweb.com> > O: +1.323.856.1474 > C: +1.323.309.1601 > > LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/ericfranzon > Twitter: http://twitter.com/SemanticWeb > -- Regards, Kingsley Idehen Founder& CEO OpenLink Software Company Web: http://www.openlinksw.com Personal Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen Twitter/Identi.ca handle: @kidehen Google+ Profile: https://plus.google.com/112399767740508618350/about LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen
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