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Re: Press.net News Ontology

From: Stéphane Corlosquet <scorlosquet@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 12:27:57 -0400
Message-ID: <CAGR+nnEB-ov7Q8WRAeUtUYGG3XMHD1Eh6e0QfWEwdA6+cTgmpA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Paul Wilton <paul.wilton@ontoba.com>
Cc: Jarred McGinnis <jarred.mcginnis@pressassociation.com>, public-lod@w3.org, Semantic Web <semantic-web@w3.org>
Paul,

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Paul Wilton <paul.wilton@ontoba.com> wrote:

> Hi Steph
> There is clearly some crossover with rNews. Jarred has a nice diagram
> showing some of this, and I am sure he will follow up.
>
> However we feel with press.net we have gone much further than rNews
> particularly in acknowledging that news (in the majority of cases) is event
> driven.
> While rNews provides the abilty to mark up documents with meta tag
> associations to things in the real world, in many cases annotating directly
> like this does not in fact reflect the nature of news. In fact the news
> article in a large majority of cases should be annotated with the Event that
> story is about. It is the Event that then has the location, agents, factors,
> and date/time associated with it. Many news stories thus would be authored
> about the same event.
>
> We have provided a framework for this model, and also a lightweight model
> (framework) of the relationships between the stuff that news is about.  So
> while rNews will undoubtedly have an impact on search and SEO, there are
> use-cases where it falls short.
> The press.net ontologies we have built we feel reflect the true nature of
> news, and lets consumers of news RDF repesented with this model (or APIs
> built around this model) to make rich and accurate aggregations of news
> content, distinguishing between content that is say genuinely about a
> Location (eg about its cultural heritage maybe), and news that is about an
> event that occurred in that location (eg a murder).
>

Thanks for this clear explanation. I didn't realize the emphasis on event. I
think your answer above might be a good fit for an FAQ page :)

Steph.


>
> best regards
> Paul Wilton
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Stéphane Corlosquet <scorlosquet@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Hi Jarred,
>>
>> It seems to me that your work is similar or at least related to rNews [1].
>> I'm curious to know if you're looked at rNews when building the
>> News Ontology. Do they complement each other, or are we re-inventing the
>> wheel?
>>
>> Steph.
>>
>> [1] http://dev.iptc.org/rNews
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Jarred McGinnis <
>> jarred.mcginnis@pressassociation.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ** ** ** ** ** **
>>>
>>> Hello all,****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> The Press Association has just published our first draft of a 'news'
>>> ontology (*http://data.press.net/ontology*). For each of the ontologies
>>> documented, we've included the motivation for the ontologies as well as some
>>> of the design decisions behind it. Also, you can get the rdf or ttl by
>>> adding the extension. For example, http://data.press.net/ontology/asset
>>> .rdf gives you the ontology described at
>>> http://data.press.net/ontology/asset/ ...****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Have a look at the ontology and tell us what you think. We think it is
>>> pretty good but feel free to point out our mistakes. We will fix it. Ask why
>>> we did it one way and not another. We will give you an answer.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Paul Wilton of Ontoba has been working with us at the PA and has spelled
>>> out a lot of the guiding principles of this work at
>>> http://www.ontoba.com/blog.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> The reasons behind this work were talked about at SemTech 2011 San
>>> Fransisco:
>>> http://semtech2011.semanticweb.com/sessionPop.cfm?confid=62&proposalid=4134
>>> ****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Looking forward to hearing from you,****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
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>>>
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