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Re: [ontolog-forum] Deborah L. McGuinness, keynote speaker at OCAS!!!

From: adasal <adam.saltiel@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 22:47:36 +0100
Message-ID: <CANJ1O4o2fwdfH4r84M6Q06MygH9ejL0P_MRDvOkQ7TKAPO3TRg@mail.gmail.com>
To: "John F. Sowa" <sowa@bestweb.net>
Cc: ontolog-forum@ontolog.cim3.net, SW-forum <semantic-web@w3.org>, public-lod@w3.org

It is an interesting point about Aristotle.
The study of logic is founded in his work. But you are also pointing out
that Ontologies do not stray in complexity beyond the form of logic his
notation permits.

Here I think we are talking about 'Coming of Age' as referring to the
dissemination and acceptance of a set of techniques.
Perhaps you are thinking that dissemination would be all the greater if
people were to bear in mind that ontology (the use of logic) is historically

Isn't it that knowledge can be represented (to use the title from your
wonderful book) in many different logically consistent ways?
The difficulty of creating the master data record over a large disparate
data flow illustrates this. It comes after the fact of a data domain model
which itself records the situation as it is now after a process of evolution
and growth. But each stage and each segment is logical. It is just that a
better job can be done abstracting things further away from the original
language of the data domain.

Adam Saltiel

On 23 October 2011 21:48, John F. Sowa <sowa@bestweb.net> wrote:

> On 10/23/2011 3:39 PM, Alexander Garcia Castro wrote:
>>  *Deborah L. McGuinness, keynote speaker at OCAS!!!*
>> At 9AM on the 24th Deborah will be opening the workshop, u cant miss it!!
> Deborah's talks are usually very good, and I would recommend it.
> But I have some quibbles about the title:
>   "Ontologies come of Age in the Semantic Web"
> Ontology is as old as Aristotle.  Cyc has been developing ontologies
> since 1984, and they devoted over 1000 person years to writing them.
> That would make ontologies considerably older than the Semantic Web.
> Furthermore, if you download OWL ontologies, you might notice that
> the overwhelming majority of them don't use any logical features
> beyond what can be stated more clearly and concisely in Aristotle's
> original notation.
> John
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