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Re: Schema.org

From: Brandon Schwartz <brandon@boomajoom.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 10:03:05 -0700
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=zA1wVxxn54DkiOWRUBB59Lw_4QA@mail.gmail.com>
To: adasal <adam.saltiel@gmail.com>
Cc: Bjoern Hoehrmann <derhoermi@gmx.net>, Juan Sequeda <juanfederico@gmail.com>, Semantic Web <semantic-web@w3.org>

I don't know how many of you do any work with Drupal, but there's been an
interesting topic related to this in the Semantic Web group:

<http://groups.drupal.org/node/153354>May add some value to the discussion.

Brandon | http://www.boomajoom.com
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On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 6:23 AM, adasal <adam.saltiel@gmail.com> wrote:

> There are a couple of books about google that should be of interest:-
> Here is one by Scott Cleland found at http://www.searchanddestroybook.com/
> (Cleland was a former U.S. Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for
> Information and Communication Policy. He has certainly caught the attention
> of some eminent people e.g.
> Phil Kerpen, chairman of the Internet Freedom Coalition, Ben Edelman,
> Assistant Professor, Harvard Business School ...)
> "
> This is the other side of the Google story—the unauthorized book that
> Google does not want you to read. In *Search & Destroy*, Google expert
> Scott Cleland, shows that the world’s most powerful company is not who it
> pretends to be.
> Google pretends to be a harmless lamb, but chose a full-size model of a
> Tyrannosaurus Rex as its mascot. Beware the T-Rex in sheep’s clothing.
> Google has acquired far more information, both public and private, and has
> invented more ways to use it, than anyone in history. Information is power,
> and in Google’s case, it’s the power to influence and control virtually
> everything the Internet touches.
> Learn how Google’s pervasive tracking and profiling destroys privacy and
> individualism.
> Discover how Google Inc. uses its “Don’t be evil” slogan to mask unethical
> business practices.
> Learn how Google’s market dominance and free products threaten competition,
> innovation, job creation, and economic growth.
> Discover how Google’s hidden political agenda threatens individual freedom,
> democracy, and national sovereignty.
> Understand the ramifications of Google imposing its radical values and
> ideology on the world.
> "
> Well they want to sell the book!
> But these last few bullet points apply to the internet generally and all
> other computer mediated transactions to a greater or lesser extent.
> Of course, if there is a company then it is possible to identify an agenda
> with it.
> We have to accept, and this must be part of the role of w3 if it has any
> relevance, where we are now and that there are huge intrinsic tensions and
> conflicts associated with computer mediated transactions (financial +
> internet, the two inextricably bound).
> Consider the sentence "Discover how Google’s hidden political agenda
> threatens individual freedom, democracy, and national sovereignty." from
> above quote.
> I haven't read the book, and I am interested in researching these issues,
> but my initial reaction is this.
> 1. At first the statement seems like preposterous hyperbole.
> 2. These are very serious issues to consider if taken at face value.
> 3. I am interested in the psychology of the entry point to the internet. It
> no longer suffices to separate the technical from the psychological and all
> that entails.
> 4. The internet is like another country, and, as soon as this is said, the
> problems with it come into focus - cost of entry, border control,
> governance, citizenship and last, but not least, economy.
> Best,
> Adam
> On 7 June 2011 06:04, Bjoern Hoehrmann <derhoermi@gmx.net> wrote:
>> * Juan Sequeda wrote:
>> >I'm surprised nobody has started the discussion on the gran announcement
>> of
>> >Google, Yahoo and Bing on schema.org
>> A friend of mine claimed to have had a look at the site and told me a
>> joke about it. He said that the Terms of Service for the site say, by
>> using the site you agree to be bound to terms the maintainers of it
>> may come up with in the future, and that, if you want to use their
>> schemas on your site in a fully conforming manner, and only then, and
>> the maintainers may change what that means at any time without notice,
>> you may be able to receive a license under terms that are not disclosed
>> to do so, if a license might be necessary, which is also undisclosed.
>> Now my friend does not read english very well, and certainly can't read
>> english legalese, so I laughed about that a lot, as he could not have
>> been serious about it.
>> --
>> Björn Höhrmann · mailto:bjoern@hoehrmann.de · http://bjoern.hoehrmann.de
>> Am Badedeich 7 · Telefon: +49(0)160/4415681 · http://www.bjoernsworld.de
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