- From: Ying Ding <dingying@indiana.edu>
- Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 20:38:04 -0400
- To: Sampo Syreeni <decoy@iki.fi>
- CC: Story Henry <henry.story@gmail.com>, "K. Krasnow Waterman" <kkw@MIT.EDU>, "'Semantic Web'" <semantic-web@w3.org>
The effort of developing a semantic facebook for life scientist (called VIVO) is on the way and funded by NIH: http://www.nature.com/naturejobs/2009/091105/full/nj7269-123a.html. The preliminary versions have been running at the following sites: VIVO Cornell http://vivo.cornell.edu/ VIVO University of Florida http://vivoweb.org/ VIVO Indiana University http://vivo.iu.edu/ Southwest Biodiversity Knowledge Environment in China http://ske.las.ac.cn/ Plant Evolutionary Biology Knowledge Environment in China http://botany.las.ac.cn/ Biomedical and Health Knowledge Environment http://health.las.ac.cn/ More further development and improvement will be continuously released, please check: http://www.vivoweb.org/ best ying Sampo Syreeni wrote: > On 2010-03-30, Story Henry wrote: > >> For the moment, writing your foaf profile is nearly just a write only >> exercise. Some robots read it, but the result of doing so is not >> immediately obvious, if at all. Once one can see what the benefit is >> - and here I mean close to immediate feedback - such as getting >> access to a campus, being able to chat with friends, [...] > > So in essence what we need is a distributed version of Facebook: all > of the user specific metadata stored as RDF documents on the Web > and/or accessible via some well-defined protocol which can also do > targeted pushes and/or pulls of triples. (I wonder whether Google's > Wave stuff could help here; certainly some version of it could.) A UI > layer on top of that to make it usable and beautiful. Trust, which in > this case would probably be email authentication directly to your > hosting node, with optional PGP crypto. Perhaps also aggregation of > inter-host dataflows for efficiency. > > The main problem I see with this sort of thing is that you'd have to > pay for your subscription to one of the hosts (or host your own). > Financing from ads wouldn't be easy in this sort of environment, > because you could always roll your own open source implementation > which excluded any ad from other people's feeds. OTOH, any particular > host implementation could do whatever it wanted at the UI layer. > >> The outcome is pretty easy to describe: you are no longer locked into >> one provider. > > Yes, and that is part of the funding problem. I mean, I've repeatedly > asked Google to enable plain exports of data from their services. Even > they don't go there -- lock-in is evidently part of their business > model too. > >> If you want to help people grok linked data just having them play >> with data that is based on Linked Data won't help. After all: how >> would they distinguish that from normal data? > > One big way to make that distinction would be to build in location > independence from the start. That is, deep support for multiple > identifiers for the same data, means of propagating trust from one > identifier to the next, and eventually resolution services which > enable you to rename data to its newest URI. If this sort of thing > took off, even the giants like Google and Facebook would be inclined > to either implement their own resolution services or to subscribe to > an existing one. > >> Yes, the best way to do that is to start getting people to play with >> social networks. They are bound to be interested. As they improve the >> descriptions about themselves, they will then turn to dbpedia, >> musicbrains, and all the other linked data sites out there. > > Yes. In their most rudimentary forms, I think of such services as yet > another app/box on your (distributed) Facebook page. In the next phase > as integration of the basic data elements into the overall UI (i.e. > when I state I like kittens, every box that has to do with likes > actually links to some ontology and disambiguates the meaning using > standard UI components and data sources). And come nirvana, PnP/DnD ad > hoc functionality to build the boxes in the first place. ;) -- Ying Ding, Assistant Professor of Information Science School of Library & Information Science, Indiana University 1320 East 10th Street, Herman B Wells Library, LI025 Bloomington, IN 47405, USA Tel: (812) 855 5388, Fax: (812) 855 6166 Semantic Web Lab: http://swl.slis.indiana.edu/ Homepage: http://info.slis.indiana.edu/~dingying/
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