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Re: call to arms

From: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 23:58:26 +0200
Message-ID: <q2o9178f78c1003291458uc0c8836ft26a27ffdfa6032d7@mail.gmail.com>
To: Danny Ayers <danny.ayers@gmail.com>
Cc: Semantic Web <semantic-web@w3.org>
2010/3/29 Danny Ayers <danny.ayers@gmail.com>

> Good news Melvin. Now how do I get something like you've got?
>

Work out what you do, then build it piece by piece.  I think when more
people start using sparql update we'll have a lot more interesting
situations on our hands, so sparql 1.1 is going to be great in that respect.

Some Components I Use (probably in order of usefulness):

Desktop -- I use Ubuntu with all the excellent command line tooling
SPARQL Update / Datawiki -- I use
http://bnode.org/blog/2008/01/15/arc-data-wiki-plugin
Certificates -- Probably right now the best place is xwiki
http://webid.myxwiki.org/
FOAF+SSL Login -- I use henry's delegated server to become a login
https://foafssl.org/srv/idp?authreqissuer=<SITE_URI>
WebDAV -- I use a the PEAR server
http://pear.php.net/package/HTTP_WebDAV_Server/redirected

I'm generally inspired by the discussions on the foaf-protocols list, which
is where I've shared most of the things I've looked at (
http://lists.foaf-project.org/mailman/listinfo/foaf-protocols ).  I tend to
share my code on github etc. some is still quite basic and in progress, but
it tends to get cleaned up according to interest.


>
> On 29 March 2010 23:38, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > 2010/3/29 Danny Ayers <danny.ayers@gmail.com>
> >>
> >> Right now, despite the promise, things seem mired in the mud. People
> >> aren't seeing the things that the Web of Data has proposed.
> >>
> >> How do we get over this?
> >>
> >> Face to face maybe - the bits the interwebs can't provide.
> >>
> >> I suggest the leading lights of this sturm sit down in a room
> >> somewhere in northern Europe, and hammer the damn thing down. It is so
> >> stupid for it to take so long.
> >>
> >> The Internet, and the Web is excellent at providing miraculous stuff,
> >> but the humans that tie the things together seem to be disappearing
> >> into different worlds.
> >>
> >> The Semantic Web should be useful by now, by anyone's predictions.
> >
> > The Semantic Web IS useful, at least I find it so.
> >
> > For years and years I looked for a way to login to a website without me
> > having to run a server or have lots of passwords, my search lead me to
> > FOAF+SSL, I now run half a dozen little websites, each part of my linked
> > data footprint, and use my certificate to login.  I can also log in to
> any
> > openid site with my own FOAF certificate.  Before apple broke it, I was
> able
> > to log into my sites using an ipod touch with one press, which I dont
> think
> > anyone has done before.
> >
> > For a long time I wanted to create a task list and notifications system.
> I
> > now use sparql update to upload my tasks to my own personal data wiki (I
> > sometimes use webdav), use roqet and sparql to get some values back,
> process
> > them a bit (one day I'll learn RIF or N3 rules), and then it hooks into
> my
> > kalarm clock and notifies me when I have to do stuff.
> >
> > My tasks are stored in my personal 'nano' blog which scores me an integer
> > between 0-255 for the various things I do during the day.  I can track
> how
> > productive I've been on a given day, week or month, and compare that to
> my
> > historical and moving averages for that day, or in other contexts.  I can
> > update my nanoblog with the press of a key, or, just for fun I made a
> little
> > device I can hang round my neck, when I press a button, it sends a
> keystroke
> > to my machine, and relays that off to the cloud.
> >
> > I run a small open source project, and wanted to reward people with some
> > karma every time I fixed a bug.  I can do that by hooking my ticket
> system
> > into another site which stores karma for people for the things they've
> done
> > and it's marked up in RDFa.  Indeed they can transfer that karma to
> someone
> > else, if that other person has contributed, and use FOAF+SSL.  I can get
> > notified when someone has fixed a bug in my project, or made an
> improvement
> > to the wiki.  In effect my project has done a virtual IPO and is issuing
> > it's own virtual currency, karma.  One day it might offer to buy the
> karma
> > back.
> >
> > One other thing I do is that I can aggregate all the accounts in my FOAF
> and
> > my blog, and can see all the activities that they have done recently,
> > delicious bookmarks, twitter, flickr etc.  I can jump to a someone in my
> > foaf:knows list and see what they've done.  With smob I host my own
> > microblog on my homepage, and my posts get relayed out to my followers,
> > twitter, and sindice.
> >
> > I haven't even mentioned linked data yet.  With linked geo data I can
> look
> > at all the amenites on my street, in my town, and link them to other
> > resources.  It wont be long before my friends with smartphones will be
> able
> > to check in to places, and I'll be able to meet them for a coffee.
> >
> > I've only been really following the Semantic Web closely for about 2
> years,
> > and most of that time has been learning, but if there's one thing I would
> > describe it as, it would be USEFUL.  Some of this stuff can only really
> be
> > done on the semantic web.  I cant describe to you how happy this makes
> me.
> > And there's so much more to come, it's only going to get better and
> better.
> > I build this stuff primarily for myself to use, but it's usable by
> anyone.
> > Once other people start using global data, using authorization, making
> > things read write, and linking it together, the usefulness will expand
> > exponentially.
> >
> > I'm LOVING the Semantic Web.  We have this incredible playground, this
> > universe, and it's all ours!   They say that all good innovation comes
> from
> > scratching an itch.  What's your itch?  Why not use the web of data to
> give
> > it a scratch?  And maybe we can all become a bit richer from it ... :)
> >
> >>
> >> something better change
> >>
> >> (I'm a scaredy pacifist, so don't take that to heart)
> >>
> >> --
> >> http://danny.ayers.name
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> http://danny.ayers.name
>
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