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Re: Subjects as Literals, [was Re: The Ordered List Ontology]

From: Graham Klyne <GK-lists@ninebynine.org>
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 08:50:18 +0100
Message-ID: <4C2D9A3A.4010706@ninebynine.org>
To: Jeremy Carroll <jeremy@topquadrant.com>
CC: Jiří Procházka <ojirio@gmail.com>, Linked Data community <public-lod@w3.org>, Semantic Web <semantic-web@w3.org>
[cc's trimmed]

I'm with Jeremy here, the problem's economic not technical.

If we could introduce subjects-as-literals in a way that:
(a) doesn't invalidate any existing RDF, and
(b) doesn't permit the generation of RDF/XML that existing applications cannot 

then I think there's a possible way forward.


BTW, which list is the most appropriate for this discussion?  I seem to be 
getting 4 copies of some messages!

Jeremy Carroll wrote:
> Jiří Procházka wrote:
>> I wonder, when using owl:sameAs or related, to "name" literals to be
>> able to say other useful thing about them in normal triples (datatype,
>> language, etc) does it break OWL DL 
> yes it does
>> (or any other formalism which is
>> base of some ontology extending RDF semantics)?
> Not OWL full
>>  Or would it if
>> rdf:sameAs was introduced?
> It would still break OWL DL
>> Best,
>> Jiri
> OWL DL is orthogonal to this issue. The OWL DLers already prohibit 
> certain RDF - specifically the workaround for not having literal as 
> subjects. So they are neutral.
> I reiterate that I agree whole-heartedly with the technical arguments 
> for making this change; however the economic case is missing.
> Jeremy
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