- From: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
- Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 12:09:26 +0100
- To: Bob Ferris <zazi@elbklang.net>
- Cc: Semantic Web <semantic-web@w3.org>
- Message-Id: <6B649A70-28D6-4687-A013-EDC22ED0FA08@w3.org>
Bob, this issue did come up in the course of the SPARQL 1.1 work, which contains a separate entailment document[1]. That entailment document also includes RIF entailment, which, in turn, requires the answer to the question you are asking. And (good timing!) Axel Polleres and Sandro Hawke just described a mechanism whose goal is to be included the SPARQL standard[2]. This is by no means final, will be discussed by the SPARQL Group I presume, but will be finalized eventually... I hope this helps Ivan [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/WD-sparql11-entailment-20101014/ [2] http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Importing_RIF On Dec 9, 2010, at 14:36 , Bob Ferris wrote: > Hi, > > someone might say now: "Hey, I heard that question already somewhere else." - Yes, you are right. I asked this question at semanticoverflow.com[1]. However, I'm sure that I'll hopefully reach here a broader/different audience. Furthermore, I think more and more that this is and will be a very important issue (requirement) for the 'main' purpose of the Semantic Web - information integration. > > So here we go: > > As I think the need for assigning specific rules to Semantic Web ontologies/RDF graphs to enable intented inferences is getting more and more important, we need possibilities to semantically related these rules to Semantic Web ontologies/RDF graphs. The publication of the Rule Interchange Format (RIF)[2] this summer was a (huge) step into that direction. However, am I right that they missed a (from my point of view) very important functionality? To quote a part of an answer of an RIF FAQ[3]: > > "This lets you physically embed RIF in an RDFS/OWL document, but notes that the embedded RIF is merely described, not asserted. There is not currently a standard vocabulary saying, in RDFS/OWL, that you also want some RIF rules as part of your ontology. Instead, for now, you must have RIF import RDFS/OWL." > > So how can I associate rules that should be/could be applied to a specific Semantic Web ontology/RDF graph? - e.g., > > * Information Service A applied rule B,C,D to it whole knowledge base that can be identified by URI Z > * Information Service E suggest rule F and G to be applied at RDF Graph Y > * Ontology H should be used with rule I for proper reasoning > > > Already proposed ideas: > > 1. the SPIN framework[4] > 2. the Rulz vocabulary[5] > > Where the first one offers spin:rule and spin:constraint to associate rules/constraints to RDF/OWL models, the second offers a quite simple mechanism to embed rules, that are described in a certain rule language, in an RDF graph. > However, I'm looking for rule usage description*, i.e. I do not simple want to associate a rule by using a quite static property e.g., spin:rule that has quite interpretable semantics. I want relations to 'suggest' or 'prescribe' rules. Maybe also by explaining their benefits etc. Another attribute would be 'applied', so that I can express that the information service where the information comes from uses this rule (/these rules) in its reasoning engine. I guess there might be more use cases. > I think that this mechanism is really necessary, if we want to share proper semantics to interpret the sense of an information. I believe that we cannot achieve a quite good interpretation (intended meaning/purpose) of a message, when we use a 'simple' description of an applied concept (here a description without relations to related rules). > > What do you think about this issue? I think it is crucial. > > Cheers, > > > Bob > > > *) afaik RIF includes also some attributes to describe rules/ usage of rules. However, all descriptions I've seen so far are natural language text, which is quite bad to interpret at the moment > > > [1] http://www.semanticoverflow.com/questions/2293/how-can-i-associate-related-rules-to-an-ontology-rdf-graph > [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/rif-overview/ > [3] http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/RIF_FAQ#How_do_I_embed_RIF_in_an_RDFS.2FOWL_schema_or_ontology.3F > [4] http://spinrdf.org/ > [5] http://vocab.deri.ie/rulz# > ---- Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ mobile: +31-641044153 PGP Key: http://www.ivan-herman.net/pgpkey.html FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf
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