- From: adasal <adam.saltiel@gmail.com>
- Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 09:28:37 +0000
- To: bvillazon@fi.upm.es
- Cc: semantic-web at W3C <semantic-web@w3c.org>
- Message-ID: <AANLkTinjPv5=Rm3H5mP+v2AAmV1t7yc=BWta7tddy+0X@mail.gmail.com>
Thank you so much. I will be in contact in next few days to explain better what I am experimenting with. Best, Adam On 10 December 2010 01:46, Boris Villazón Terrazas <bvillazon@fi.upm.es>wrote: > Hi Adam > > Thanks, I'm glad that the information is useful for you. > > > On 09/12/2010 16:13, adasal wrote: > > Boris, > Those are a couple of incredibly useful links for me. Thank you! > Especially your own link! > I haven't had time to go through it yet, but I think I will find your paper > very useful, basically essential to what I am trying to understand. > > However, if you have a moment, can you say in one or two sentences the > relationship between your approach and google refine, which I belief can > lift XML, and TopBraid, which does lift XML, but, from my experiments, > requires post processing probably with SPIN, if I understand correctly my > own results. I should just add that SPIN seemed like a solution too bound to > the tool to be of interest to me, and also represented further knowledge > absorption on my part. > > I'll try to do my best ... > AFAIU Google Refine is very good to make some data cleansing. The RDF > extension of Google Refine allows to export, in a easiest way, the data > coming from a non-ontological resource (CSV) to RDF instances. We use the > term Population for this. > > Our approach tries to cover the following transformation approaches: > - TBox transformation, i.e, transforming the resource content into an > ontology schema > - ABox transformation, i.e., transforming the resource schema into an > ontology schema, and the resource content, into ontology instances > - Population, i.e., transforming the resource content into instances of an > existing ontology > This image can be useful: > http://mccarthy.dia.fi.upm.es/img/TApproaches.png > > Also, we want to cover databases, xml, spreadsheets and flat files, and to > this end we are implementing a prototype, NOR2O. However, we still need to > improve several things. > > If you want we can discuss about your data and the post-processing stuff > you are doing with SPIN, and this can be a new feature to take into account > for us. > > I didn't want to write a long email, so if you have doubts/suggestions do > not hesitate to contact us. > > Best and thanks again > > Boris > > > > > > As I say comments welcome. > > > Adam > > On 8 December 2010 22:11, Boris Villazón Terrazas <bvillazon@fi.upm.es>wrote: > >> Hi Paola >> >> You can also try >> XLWrap:http://xlwrap.sourceforge.net/ >> NOR2O:http://mccarthy.dia.fi.upm.es/nor2o/ >> >> Your suggestion about online conversion services is interesting, maybe >> something like http://any23.org/ >> >> Best >> >> Boris >> >> >> >> On 08/12/2010 23:02, Paola Di Maio wrote: >> >> Bernard >> >> thanks, looks like what I was hoping for >> :-) >> >> I must have missed it , and no, not yet played with refine (cant keep up >> with all the developments it seems) >> >> Zach - thanks for reply >> >> It would be nice to have something (more than one service even) web >> based that does not require download/install to carry out conversion >> >> online conversion services exist (pdf to doc etc) but not sure if the >> functionality comparable >> >> I think >> >> 1.allowing users to specify minimal input as to what properties/values >> to model, rather than a blind conversion of all the fields >> >> and >> >> 2. outputting the converted rdf file to URI >> >> >> would be desirable features >> >> Look forward to developments >> >> cheers >> >> >> cheers >> >> PDM >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Bernard Vatant < >> bernard.vatant@mondeca.com> wrote: >> >>> Hello Paola >>> >>> Did you try the RDF extension for Google Refine? >>> http://lab.linkeddata.deri.ie/2010/grefine-rdf-extension/ >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Bernard >>> >>> 2010/12/8 Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com> >>> >>> Greets folks >>>> >>>> I am glad to read that there is more than one way to convert csv to RDF >>>> >>>> http://www.snee.com/bobdc.blog/2010/08/converting-csv-to-rdf.html >>>> >>>> wonder if there is any public web service that allows me to upload a csv >>>> file >>>> (or point to a url of a csv file) , specify what values/properties I >>>> want to model in RDF, >>>> and outputs some valid RDF, ideally directly to a URI (the system would >>>> automagically create the resource) >>>> >>>> If not, would there be scope for building such a tool? >>>> >>>> (note, I dont write code myself otherwise I would do it, but surely >>>> there must exist coding wizards out there who could >>>> whip such a functionality up, provided its feasible and useful to others >>>> as well) >>>> >>>> cheers >>>> >>>> PDM >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Bernard Vatant >>> Senior Consultant >>> Vocabulary & Data Engineering >>> Tel: +33 (0) 971 488 459 >>> Mail: bernard.vatant@mondeca.com >>> ---------------------------------------------------- >>> Mondeca >>> 3, cité Nollez 75018 Paris France >>> Web: http://www.mondeca.com >>> Blog: http://mondeca.wordpress.com >>> ---------------------------------------------------- >>> >> >> >> > >
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