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Re: sameas.org

From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 09:02:53 -0400
Message-ID: <4A2A68FD.4040304@openlinksw.com>
To: "Richard H. McCullough" <rhm@pioneerca.com>
CC: Sherman Monroe <sdmonroe@gmail.com>, richard.hancock@3kbo.com, Azamat <abdoul@cytanet.com.cy>, SW-forum <semantic-web@w3.org>, public-lod@w3.org, Chris Wallace <chris.wallace@uwe.ac.uk>
Richard H. McCullough wrote:
> The mapping between files/directories and instances/classes
> is a natural one, and allows you to use your file system intuition
> when thinking about classes.
> The *mKE* browser (see http://mkrmke.org/) translates a
> "hierarchy outline" into an ontology, or a file system.
> The *mKR* language used to "talk" to mKE provides a convenient
> notation for doing the searches that you mention here.  The mKR
> equivalent of your query "Kiwi a bird" is
>     *Kiwi isa* ?;*
Kiwi a ? ;

Is what happens via SPARQL at http://lod.openlinksw.com, which is a hug 
RDF Quad Store. Remember, you can click on the "SPARQL" button at 
anytime to unveil the underlying SPARQL associated with your query.

It what happens when "razorbase" makes a call to the service via its 

I don't know how you've come to assume something different is happening, 
or how we seem to be providing an alternative solution to this basic issue.


1. http://lod.openlinksw.com -- quad store
2. http://lod.openlinksw.com/facet_doc.html -- about this service (e.g. 
Entity Ranking as basis for ordering relative to context).

> ** 
> In file system terms, this *question* literally means to start at
> "Kiwi", which can be either a file or directory, and walk all
> paths up to "/", the root directory of the file system.
> Dick McCullough
> http://mkrmke.org
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Sherman Monroe <mailto:sdmonroe@gmail.com>
>     *To:* richard.hancock@3kbo.com <mailto:richard.hancock@3kbo.com>
>     *Cc:* Azamat <mailto:abdoul@cytanet.com.cy> ; SW-forum
>     <mailto:semantic-web@w3.org> ; public-lod@w3.org
>     <mailto:public-lod@w3.org> ; Chris Wallace
>     <mailto:chris.wallace@uwe.ac.uk>
>     *Sent:* Friday, June 05, 2009 7:32 PM
>     *Subject:* Re: sameas.org
>     Chris,
>     On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 6:46 PM, <richard.hancock@3kbo.com
>     <mailto:richard.hancock@3kbo.com>> wrote:
>         Hi Azamat,
>         one thing I would like to be able to do is enter a search
>         query similar to
>         the following:
>         "Kiwi a bird"
>         using the "a" to indicate "rdf:type" and to substitute for
>         "bird" the
>         classes known to represent that concept. The search would then
>         be made
>         with the substituted list of classes specifying the entity type.
>     This would indeed be a better UI, however, disambiguation will be
>     challenging in the wild. Any UI based on state-of-the-art tech
>     will require the user to disambiguate. One could say that
>     lod.openlinksw.com <http://lod.openlinksw.com> and razorbase are
>     browsers which encourage user to disambiguate her way to the
>     desired results.
>     I've prepared some slides [1] which presents the file system
>     metaphor as a useful approach for linked data browsers. I think it
>     offers a nice alternative to the more natural UI you're describing.
>     [1] http://www.slideshare.net/guest02493a3/razorbase-examples-part-4
>     -sherman



Kingsley Idehen	      Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
President & CEO 
OpenLink Software     Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
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