- From: Chum, Frank Y <FChum@chevron.com>
- Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:15:02 -0700
- To: "AzamatAbdoullaev" <abdoul@cytanet.com.cy>
- Cc: "[ontolog-forum] " <ontolog-forum@ontolog.cim3.net>, <semantic-web@w3c.org>, "Pieter De Leenheer" <pdeleenh@vub.ac.be>
There WILL BE (some may say, already are) multiple O&G industry standards out there from the different standard organizations -- some open, some not so open. Currently, I see that it's a matter of how each company bring them into their enterprises and work with them internally. Isn't it the individual companies responsibility to align/not align their corporate models to the standards? Even though the interests are there, I don't see a lot of urgency from the O&G companies to have a SINGLE, one-size-fits-all, open-for-all ontology. More of an utopian thinking, IMHO. Frank Chum -----Original Message----- From: AzamatAbdoullaev [mailto:abdoul@cytanet.com.cy] Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 2:30 PM To: Chum, Frank Y Cc: [ontolog-forum] ; semantic-web@w3c.org; Pieter De Leenheer Subject: Re: independent semantic software evaluation frameworks? FC wrote: The standards I was referring to was Chevron's internal standards in ontology naming, and making them sharable with the [Chevron] community, thereby as a basis of our own [Chevron] master data/ontology model. AA: Then there will be the Shell master ontology model, BP master ontology model, Exxon, Chevron, Total, Conoco, and it is only "the oil major" master data models. What about industry standards, compatibility of the corporate master ontologies, their merging, converging or at least aligning? Here was the whole point of the question, to my reading. Thanks. Azamat Abdoullaev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chum, Frank Y" <FChum@chevron.com> To: "Abdoul" <abdoul@cytanet.com.cy> Cc: "Pieter De Leenheer" <pdeleenh@vub.ac.be>; "[ontolog-forum] " <ontolog-forum@ontolog.cim3.net>; <semantic-web@w3c.org> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 11:39 PM Subject: RE: independent semantic software evaluation frameworks? Azamat, Thank you for your comments on the PwC interview. The standards I was referring to was Chevron's internal standards in ontology naming, and making them sharable with the [Chevron] community, thereby as a basis of our own [Chevron] master data/ontology model. I hope this helps with the clarification. Frank Chum -----Original Message----- From: Abdoul [mailto:abdoul@cytanet.com.cy] Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 2:56 PM To: Pieter De Leenheer; semantic-web@w3c.org; [ontolog-forum] Cc: Chum, Frank Y Subject: Re: independent semantic software evaluation frameworks? Pieter De Leenheer wrote: "Check out the PriceWaterhouseCoopers Spring forecast as well, to find out there overview of semantic tools": http://www.collibra.com/resource/pwc-technology-forecast Thank you, Pieter: The forecast makes an interesting reading. Particularly i liked Frank Chum of Chevron interview on shared ontologies in the oil and gas industry. Although, have to say, he missed to answer the most interesting question: PwC: Do you sense some danger that we could have a lot of enthusiasm here and end up with a lot of non-compatible ontologies? Are we going to enter a period where there will need to be some sort of master data model, a master ontology model effort? FC: We already defined some standards to address that. We have a URI [Uniform Resource Identifier] standard for how you name ontologies, and it's referenceable so that you can go into that URI and retrieve the ontology. We tried to make that shareable, and we are also starting a community type of space. azamat abdoullaev http://standardontology.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pieter De Leenheer" <pdeleenh@vub.ac.be> To: <paoladimaio10@googlemail.com> Cc: "[ontolog-forum]" <ontolog-forum@ontolog.cim3.net>; "semantic-web at W3C" <semantic-web@w3c.org> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 11:19 PM Subject: Re: independent semantic software evaluation frameworks? > Paolo, FYI check out our business semantics mgt tool, i.e. Collibra > Studio at: http://www.collibra.com/trial > > Collibra is a spin-off from VUB STARLab. > > Here is the knowledge base with extra movies, tutorials, help to use it: > http://support.collibra.com/knowledgebase/ > > Check out the PriceWaterhouseCoopers Spring forecast as well, to find out > there overview of semantic tools: > http://www.collibra.com/resource/pwc-technology-forecast > > Hope this helps, > Pieter > > On 09 Aug 2009, at 19:03, Paola Di Maio wrote: > >> Greetings good people! >> >> I am attempting to systematically aggregate as many independent >> evaluations of semantic software tools as possible >> >> (Note: by independent it is intended not carried out by people who are >> paid to do so, or have other vested interests - such as the >> devleopers or consultants themselves or their friends and familieis - >> but by unaffiliated users who are more suitable to appreciate its >> benefits and shorcomings) >> >> We are particularly interested initially in the software developed >> with EU funding (FP6 and FP7 ) >> >> The main frameworks of reference are standard software project >> evaluation methods, including >> >> >> EVALUATION AND RANKING OF ONTOLOGY CONSTRUCTION TOOLS (various >> references included there) >> Md. Ahsan-ul Murshed and Ramanjit Singh >> http://eprints.biblio.unitn.it/archive/00000747/01/013.pdf >> >> >> I have already contacted offlist some of the individuals who have >> offered knowledge and views, and I am now seeking additional wider >> general input on >> >> 1. developing and customizing the review criteria and methodology >> (so that we can format the distributed evaluations using a common >> template) >> >> 2. any volunteered inputs in terms of reviews of software and other >> deliverables (priority is to assess cost/benefit ratio, measured in >> terms of >> functionality and usefulness) >> >> The final goal of this exercise is to contribute to improve the >> effectiveness of EU funding process in semantic web, as well as to >> general >> software output at large, as well as to come up with recommendations. >> >> >> Your contribution can be submitted authored or anonymous (subject to >> verification) >> >> >> Please contact me offlist should you wish to collaborate on this >> project, >> >> cheers >> >> Paola Di Maio >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Paola Di Maio >> ************************************************** >> Strategic Advisor >> Networked Research Lab, UK >> ************************************************** >> > > Dr. Pieter De Leenheer > > Semantics Technology & Applications Research Laboratory > Vrije Universiteit Brussel > > T +32 2 629 37 50 | M +32 497 336 553 | F +32 2 629 38 19 > > Check out my blog: http://www.pieterdeleenheer.be > >
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