- From: Alan Dean <alan.dean@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 19:03:42 +0100
- To: "Geoff Chappell" <gchappell@intellidimension.com>
- Cc: semantic-web@w3.org, "Eric Schoonover" <Eric.Schoonover@microsoft.com>
Geoff / Eric, Thank you for the pointer to intellidimension - I shall take a look at the 60-day evaluation. I still live in hope that MS will ship System.Semantic.dll at some point soon ;-) Regards, Alan Dean http://thoughtpad.net/alan-dean On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 6:41 PM, Geoff Chappell <gchappell@intellidimension.com> wrote: > Eric's post doesn't seem to have made it to the list... > > Apologies if this seems too commercially motivated for this list, but it > does seem completely relevant to the post by Alan Dean. The fact is that > .NET developers haven't had a lot of choices for semweb developement (as > compared to java, php, ...). Our libs seek to address this by providing > comprehensive RDF support in .NET including support for in-memory SPARQL > query, rules-based inference, LINQ over RDF, etc. We've also tried to > improve the developer experience with Visual Studio integration -- e.g. we > have SPARQL query windows, debug visualizers, a wizard to create .NET > objects from ontologies, and much more in the works. Combined with SQL > Server integration, it's a pretty nice picture for the .NET developer. See: > > http://www.intellidimension.com/products/semantics-sdk/ > > Rgds, > > -Geoff > > ________________________________ > From: Eric Schoonover [mailto:Eric.Schoonover@microsoft.com] > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 3:09 PM > To: semantic-web@w3.org > Cc: Paul.Miller@talis.com; danny.ayers@gmail.com; ivan@w3.org; > 'gchappell@intellidimension.com' > Subject: Re: "State of the Semantic Web" - personal opinions? > > Have you taken a look at the capabilities that Intellidimension provides in > their Semantic SDK? It is a set of .NET libraries and Visual Studio > extensions that greatly simplify Semantic Web development on the Microsoft > .NET platform. > > > > They are one of our partners in this space and we are actively engaging > Intellidimension around the development of these libraries. I recently > presented with Geoff the CEO at the Semantic Technology conference in San > Jose. > > > > My experience is that Geoff and his team are very reactive and open to > user/customer feedback. I'm sure he will reply with some more details but > definitely check out the libraries at their website: > http://www.intellidimension.com/ > > > > Best Regards, > > Eric Schoonover > > Solutions Architect > > Microsoft Corporation > > > > > > This message in response to: > > I chatted with Danny a while back, but I think it is worth putting my > > tuppence in to the thread. > > > > I develop for the Windows platform using .NET > > > > Like it or not (and I know that many in the SemWeb community probably > > don't care much for MS) this is where huge amounts of LoB development > > gets done. > > > > I am a huge fan of the semantic web 'promise' (also of REST, fwiw). My > > problem is that there are no 'first-class' libraries out there for use > > by .NET developers (especially those who are not experts in semantic > > technologies). > > > > Yes, there is SemWeb [1]. But although it is the nearest to being > > useful, it is not 'first class' (and I mean Joshua Tauberer no offence > > in saying this). > > > > Yes, there is Redland [2]. The problem is that the windows binaries > > have not maintained since before the dinosaurs (correction: April > > 2006) and unless you are a C++ guru I don't fancy your chances. > > > > Yes, I could write my own library ... but I'm insufficiently expert on > > semantic technologies to do so and, besides, I want to ship end-user > > functionality - not core libraries. > > > > The truth, however unpalatable, is that unless MS or another big beast > > ships a library / framework that the .NET community can rely upon and > > learn from then the number of business apps employing semantic > > technologies will remain small. > > > > I do not wish to sound like a doomsayer. On the contrary, I fervently > > hope that we will get .NET framework support - it's just it feels like > > we are in the Dark Ages right now. If I am incorrect, and there is > > such a library already, I would be overjoyed to be proven wrong. > > > > [1] http://razor.occams.info/code/semweb/ > > [2] http://librdf.org/ > > > > Regards, > > Alan Dean > > http://thoughtpad.net/alan-dean > >
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