Re: "State of the Semantic Web" - personal opinions?

Geoff / Eric,

Thank you for the pointer to intellidimension - I shall take a look at
the 60-day evaluation.

I still live in hope that MS will ship System.Semantic.dll at some
point soon ;-)

Regards,
Alan Dean
http://thoughtpad.net/alan-dean

On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 6:41 PM, Geoff Chappell
<gchappell@intellidimension.com> wrote:
> Eric's post doesn't seem to have made it to the list...
>
> Apologies if this seems too commercially motivated for this list, but it
> does seem completely relevant to the post by Alan Dean.  The fact is that
> .NET developers haven't had a lot of choices for semweb developement (as
> compared to java, php, ...). Our libs seek to address this by providing
> comprehensive RDF support in .NET including support for in-memory SPARQL
> query, rules-based inference, LINQ over RDF, etc. We've also tried to
> improve the developer experience with Visual Studio integration -- e.g. we
> have SPARQL query windows, debug visualizers, a wizard to create .NET
> objects from ontologies, and much more in the works. Combined with SQL
> Server integration, it's a pretty nice picture for the .NET developer. See:
>
>     http://www.intellidimension.com/products/semantics-sdk/
>
> Rgds,
>
> -Geoff
>
> ________________________________
> From: Eric Schoonover [mailto:Eric.Schoonover@microsoft.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 3:09 PM
> To: semantic-web@w3.org
> Cc: Paul.Miller@talis.com; danny.ayers@gmail.com; ivan@w3.org;
> 'gchappell@intellidimension.com'
> Subject: Re: "State of the Semantic Web" - personal opinions?
>
> Have you taken a look at the capabilities that Intellidimension provides in
> their Semantic SDK?  It is a set of .NET libraries and Visual Studio
> extensions that greatly simplify Semantic Web development on the Microsoft
> .NET platform.
>
>
>
> They are one of our partners in this space and we are actively engaging
> Intellidimension around the development of these libraries.  I recently
> presented with Geoff the CEO at the Semantic Technology conference in San
> Jose.
>
>
>
> My experience is that Geoff and his team are very reactive and open to
> user/customer feedback.  I'm sure he will reply with some more details but
> definitely check out the libraries at their website:
> http://www.intellidimension.com/
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Eric Schoonover
>
> Solutions Architect
>
> Microsoft Corporation
>
>
>
>
>
> This message in response to:
>
> I chatted with Danny a while back, but I think it is worth putting my
>
> tuppence in to the thread.
>
>
>
> I develop for the Windows platform using .NET
>
>
>
> Like it or not (and I know that many in the SemWeb community probably
>
> don't care much for MS) this is where huge amounts of LoB development
>
> gets done.
>
>
>
> I am a huge fan of the semantic web 'promise' (also of REST, fwiw). My
>
> problem is that there are no 'first-class' libraries out there for use
>
> by .NET developers (especially those who are not experts in semantic
>
> technologies).
>
>
>
> Yes, there is SemWeb [1]. But although it is the nearest to being
>
> useful, it is not 'first class' (and I mean Joshua Tauberer no offence
>
> in saying this).
>
>
>
> Yes, there is Redland [2]. The problem is that the windows binaries
>
> have not maintained since before the dinosaurs (correction: April
>
> 2006) and unless you are a C++ guru I don't fancy your chances.
>
>
>
> Yes, I could write my own library ... but I'm insufficiently expert on
>
> semantic technologies to do so and, besides, I want to ship end-user
>
> functionality - not core libraries.
>
>
>
> The truth, however unpalatable, is that unless MS or another big beast
>
> ships a library / framework that the .NET community can rely upon and
>
> learn from then the number of business apps employing semantic
>
> technologies will remain small.
>
>
>
> I do not wish to sound like a doomsayer. On the contrary, I fervently
>
> hope that we will get .NET framework support - it's just it feels like
>
> we are in the Dark Ages right now. If I am incorrect, and there is
>
> such a library already, I would be overjoyed to be proven wrong.
>
>
>
> [1] http://razor.occams.info/code/semweb/
>
> [2] http://librdf.org/
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Alan Dean
>
> http://thoughtpad.net/alan-dean
>
>

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