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Re: reification vs. named graphs

From: Bijan Parsia <bparsia@cs.man.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:24:57 +0100
Message-Id: <AA5E2656-C9DD-4DF7-B52D-A4B284E0114C@cs.man.ac.uk>
Cc: semantic-web@w3.org
To: Story Henry <henry.story@bblfish.net>

On 14 Aug 2007, at 14:17, Story Henry wrote:

> There is clearly a relation between graphs and their literal  
> representations.

XMLLiterals are not literal representations of graphs. The are  
literal representation of XML bits (fragments? infosets? not quite  
sure). Those XML bits are representations of (i.e., may be parsed to)  

This is one reason that tool kits don't handle them well as graphs.

Compare with string literals with Turtle or XML literals with SVG.

> Perhaps something like the relation between a foaf:Person and their  
> foaf:mbox?

No, on several fronts (i.e., people don't have literal  
representations ;)).

> [] a Graph;
>    n3:literal "_:it <http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/title>  
> 'Interesting Times'";
>    = { [] dc:title "Interesting Times" };
>    = "_:it <http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/title> 'Interesting  
> Times'"^n3:literal .

Ah, I see, you meant "indirect". Sure. Or you could make a special  
datatype who's lexical space was RDF/XML (or turtle) and who's value  
space was graphs.
> It is clear that saving the graphs in a triple database the way one  
> saves other triples, does make it easier to work with them. It is  
> easier to  merging, search and querying graphs if one does not  
> first have to deserialise a rdf/xml representation. So I do like  
> the { } notation in N3.

This is an implementation thing, I think.

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