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Re: Increasing the Size of the SemWeb w/i GRDDL: Questionnaire

From: Harry Halpin <hhalpin@ibiblio.org>
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 20:28:44 -0400
Message-ID: <46B90E3C.6020909@ibiblio.org>
To: Peter F Brown <peter@pensive.eu>
Cc: Semantic Web <semantic-web@w3.org>

Peter F Brown wrote:
> Whilst microformats are controlled by a self-elected clique, I really
> don't see how that is going to happen
While RDF by nature is decentralized and microformats are centralized,
the fact of the matter is that microformats are becoming widely
deployed, so it would be great if the SemWeb could incorporate them.

With GRDDL (i.e. simple XSLT transformation for a microformat or XML
vocabulary, see [1]) one can easily convert already existing microformat
data to RDF. As for new data on the Web, if people can deploy RDF
natively, use RDF a[2] (which has much of the benefits of microformats
while being decentralized), or go through microformat process and create

If people use microformats instead of RDF, the blame lies on the SemWeb
community for not maintaining easy ways to convert microformats to RDF
and for not making SemWeb technologies as accessible or as easy-to-use
as the microformat community. Yet I am confident the SemWeb community
can make the strategic investments of time and energy needed to make the
SemWeb both accessible and compatible with already existing microformat
and XML data.

[2] http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-rdfa-primer/
> -----Original Message-----
> From: semantic-web-request@w3.org [mailto:semantic-web-request@w3.org]
> On Behalf Of Harry Halpin
> Sent: 07 August 2007 20:47
> To: 'Semantic Web'
> Subject: Increasing the Size of the SemWeb w/i GRDDL: Questionnaire
> Everyone,
> 	As you may know, GRDDL (Gleaning Resource Descriptions from
> Dialects of Languages) is about to become a W3C Recommendation[1], and
> with GRDDL it should be easy to convert much of the microformat web
> (hundreds of millions of documents according to Alexa[2]) into the
> Semantic Web, which will increase the size of the Semantic Web
> dramatically. In my opinion, GRDDL, in concert with the Linking Open
> Data Project, could finally provide the data needed for the success of
> the Semantic Web, and it's absolutely critical this be done as soon as
> possible. 
> 	 It would be great if there was some effort to stabilize and
> maintain current GRDDL transformations for microformats [3], as well as
> propose some transformations from XML vocabularies. In order to figure
> out where to best use our community time and resource, I've created the
> following questionnaire (open to all), so please spare a minute to take
> it: 
> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/39407/GRDDLMICRO/
> [1]http://www.w3.org/TR/grddl/
> [2]http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats/IRC/2007-06-20#T235145


Harry Halpin,  University of Edinburgh 
http://www.ibiblio.org/hhalpin 6B522426
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