- From: Jon Awbrey <jawbrey@att.net>
- Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 11:04:38 -0400
- To: Story Henry <henry.story@bblfish.net>
- CC: Jon Awbrey's Inquiry Project <inquiry@stderr.org>, Semantic Web Forum <semantic-web@w3.org>, Ontolog Forum <ontolog-forum@ontolog.cim3.net>, Arisbe <arisbe@stderr.org>
o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o Story Henry wrote: > > Calling in a Redundancy theory of truth is very misleading. Yes, I agree. I didn't pick the name, and don't over all buy this line. I merely tried to give a moderately close reading of the main points in Ramsey's argument. > There is a big difference between "Snow is white" and the > fact of snow being white. It just looks redundant because > we are expressing both in language. But it is already very > different when you look at the same sentence in French > > "La neige est blanche" is true in French iff Snow is white. > > That is saying the same thing, but is not at all redundant. > > This goes further, there is a big difference between > a sentence quoted and one believed. So I might say: > > Joe believes "Jim kissed Jane" . > > Or in N: > > ---8<-------- > @prefix x: <http://www.gnowsis.org/ont/kissology#> . > > :joe cog:believes { :Jim x:kissed :Jane } . > ---8<-------- > > And believing it > > ---8<-------- > :Jim x:kissed :Jane . > ---8<-------- > > Perhaps the second one was reached because > I believe a stupid rule such as: > > ---8<-------- > { :joe cog:believes { ?a ?r ?b . } } => { ?a ?r ?b . } > ---8<-------- > > ie I believe whatever I believe joe to believe. > > The second might trigger some serious actions, and many films > have been made about the predisposition of jealous people to > jump too quickly from the belief statement to the later one, > and the situations this leads them to. > > This is because belief and action and so emotions are closely related. > > Anyway, this is far from being redundant. > > Henry o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o inquiry e-lab: http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/ ¢iare: http://www.centiare.com/Directory:Jon_Awbrey getwiki: http://www.getwiki.net/-User_talk:Jon_Awbrey zhongwen wp: http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Awbrey http://www.altheim.com/ceryle/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=JonAwbrey wp review: http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showuser=398 o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o
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