- From: Danny Ayers <danny.ayers@gmail.com>
- Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 14:49:54 +0200
- To: "ONTAC-WG General Discussion" <ontac-forum@colab.cim3.net>
- Cc: adasal <adam.saltiel@gmail.com>, "John F. Sowa" <sowa@bestweb.net>, semantic-web@w3.org, "Paul S Prueitt" <psp@virtualtaos.net>, brian.macklin@cec.eu.int, timbl+speaking@w3.org, colette.maloney@cec.eu.int
On 4/3/06, Azamat <abdoul@cytanet.com.cy> wrote: Simply put, > we must understand which web (or architectural pillars) most fits the > matter, the formal semantic web (i.e., the syntactic web, known as the SW > layer cake) or the real semantic web, something like this version: > > <Real Semantic Web> ::= <Ontological Framework> < Logical Framework> > <Semiotics> <the Web> > <Ontological Framework> ::= <UFO> <Upper Level Ontologies> <Domain > Ontologies> <EOL> > > <Logical Framework> ::= <FMF> | < ... > <EOL> > > <Semiotics> ::= <Pragmatics> <Semantics> <Syntax> <EOL> > <Pragmatics> ::= <Users> <Web Agents> <Intentions> <Actions> <Communication> > < Proof, Trust> | <Truth> <EOL> > > <Semantics> ::= <Signs, Natural Language Expressions> <Meanings> <EOL> > > <Syntax> ::= <Rules> <OWL Ontology> <RDF Schema> <RDF M&S> < RDF> <XML/SGML> > <Namespaces> <EOL> > <the Web> ::= <Resources, state, representation, identification, URI, > Unicode> <Interaction, sofware agents, hypertext links, protocols, HTTP> > <data Formats, HTML, XHTML> <EOL> I'm neither a philosopher nor logician, so forgive me if sounds naive: how does the above "grammar" conflict with what (if I understand correctly) you are calling the "syntactic web" - i.e. the Semantic Web of the W3C initiative? Ok, there are certainly differences, like here: > <Ontological Framework> ::= <UFO> <Upper Level Ontologies> <Domain > Ontologies> <EOL> The RDF/OWL view doesn't really make a distinction between Upper Level Ontologies and Domain Ontologies, but it has been demonstrated that ULOs can be expressed in RDF/OWL. ...here: > <Pragmatics> ::= <Users> <Web Agents> <Intentions> <Actions> <Communication> > < Proof, Trust> | <Truth> <EOL> and here: > <the Web> ::= <Resources, state, representation, identification, URI, > Unicode> <Interaction, sofware agents, hypertext links, protocols, HTTP> > <data Formats, HTML, XHTML> <EOL> - only half of each of these are explicit in the layer cake, the rest (I would suggest) being implicit parts of the system, e.g. the Semantic Web being an extension of the current Web, the current Web includes HTTP hence the SW includes HTTP. Both feature Users, Agents etc. So it looks to me like your "real semantic web" is the same as the W3C's Semantic Web, but for a few undocumented features in the latter. Where's the problem? Cheers, Danny. -- http://dannyayers.com
Received on Monday, 3 April 2006 12:50:00 UTC