- From: Frank Manola <fmanola@acm.org>
- Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 09:26:10 -0500
- To: Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net>
- CC: "Spork, Murray" <murray.spork@sap.com>, semantic-web@w3.org
It's available online. Go to http://www.authorhouse.com/ and search for author=Kent. Excerpts at http://www.bkent.net/Doc/darxrp.htm Bill's "arguments" are very realistic; basically, that modeling this stuff can be more complicated than it might appear (at least to some folks) on the surface. --Frank Henry Story wrote: > > Thanks for the pointer. I should point out that for every great idea > there have been great (and not so great) skeptics. These often help > advance the field, in that arguments have to be devised and clarified > to overcome their positions. > > There have been people who have argued that: > - we cannot know anything > - the world is an illusion > - that logic is fatally flawed > - that the earth is flat > - the holocaust never happened > > I take it that Bill Kent's arguments must be of the better variety, but > would need more precise arguments to evaluate his position. Again > thanks for the pointer. Please do let me know if you find some > online articles that summarize his thoughts. > > In the mean time, I'll just be optimistic. Logic has incredibly > solid foundations. It has received the attention of some of the > brightest minds in the past 2400 years, including Aristotle, Leibniz, > Frege, Betrand Russel, Wittgenstein, Donald Davidson, David Lewis, and > many many many more... > > > Henry Story > > > On 9 Feb 2005, at 12:00, Spork, Murray wrote: > >> [Cc's trimmed] >> >> Hi Henry, >> >> I was going to point you towards a keynote speech at Extreme Markup >> Languages 2003 by Bill Kent on the "Unsolvable Identity Problem" but >> can't find it anywhere - the best I can find is [1]. >> >> Doesn anyone know if it's available online? I'm sure it used to be. >> >> Kent's book "Data and Reality" [2] is essential reading (and a little >> depressing for all of us interested in the "semantics" of data) - just >> as relevant now as it was in the 70s when written. >> >> [1] http://www.extrememarkup.com/extreme/2003/keynotes.asp >> [2] >> http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1585009709/qid=1107946684/ sr=1- >> 1/ref=sr_1_10_1/202-3816936-0235828 >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: semantic-web-request@w3.org >>> [mailto:semantic-web-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Henry Story >>> Sent: Wednesday,9 February 2005 7:42 PM >>> To: semantic-web@w3.org >>> Cc: Roy T. Fielding; Atom Syntax; bloged >>> Subject: Madonna >>> >>> >>> Just a point of clarification about identity. (I thought the example >>> is fun enough that it may be of interest) >>> >>> As we all know Madonna is a material girl, and she lives in a >>> material [snip] > > > >
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