QT4CG meeting 135 draft agenda, 23 September 2025

Hello,

Here’s the proposed agenda for tomorrow’s meeting:

   https://qt4cg.org/meeting/agenda/2025/09-23.html

QT4 CG Meeting 135 Agenda 2025-09-23

   [1]Agenda index / [2]QT4CG.org / [3]Dashboard / [4]GH Issues / [5]GH
   Pull Requests

Agenda

   This meeting will be hosted on Zoom at 16:00BST (15:00GMT, 17:00CEST,
   11:00EDT).

   The [6]Zoom meeting ID is 831 9996 6275; the passcode is 707664.

   See the [7]meeting logistics page for more details.

1. Administrivia

1.1. Roll call

1.2. Approve the agenda

1.3. Approve minutes of previous meeting

   Minutes of [8]the previous meeting.

1.4. Next meeting

   This meeting is planned for 23 September 2025.

   The next meeting is planned for 30 September 2025.

1.5. Review of open action items [0/9]

   (Items marked [X] are believed to have been closed via email before
   this agenda was posted.)
     * [ ] QT4CG-116-01: Add a specific error code for unsupported options
       on doc and doc-available
     * [ ] QT4CG-118-01: MK to make an incorrect type raise an error in
       #1906
     * [ ] QT4CG-127-01: NW to diagram the JTree representing arbitrary
       XDM content.
     * [ ] QT4CG-128-03: NW to compare the file: module against the
       equivalent XProc 3.1 steps
     * [ ] QT4CG-131-01: MK to add a non-schema aware result.
     * [ ] QT4CG-131-02: MK to expand on the $E := <e A="p q r"... example
     * [ ] QT4CG-131-03: MK to change "invert" to "transpose" in the
       matrix example.
     * [ ] QT4CG-133-01: MK to correct the use of "Expr" in examples for
       get()
     * [ ] QT4CG-134-01: MK to open an issue about the error code for =?>

1.6. Review of open pull requests and issues

   This section summarizes all of the issues and pull requests that need
   to be resolved before we can finish. See [9]Technical Agenda below for
   the focus of this meeting.

1.6.1. Blocked

   The following PRs are open but have merge conflicts or comments which
   suggest they aren't ready for action.
     * PR [10]#2124: 573 Functions to Construct Trees
     * PR [11]#2120: 2007 Revised design for xsl:array
     * PR [12]#2019: 1776: XSLT template rules for maps and array

1.6.2. Substantive PRs

   The following substantive PRs were open when this agenda was prepared.
     * PR [13]#2202: New rules for schema-attribute and schema-element
       subtyping
     * PR [14]#2200: 657 Allow user-defined functions in no namespace
     * PR [15]#2176: 2130 encore: precedes-or-is, follows-or-is
     * PR [16]#2175: 2093 Rearrange the order and grouping of functions
     * PR [17]#2160: 2073 data model changes for JNodes and Sequences
     * PR [18]#2071: 77c deep update
     * PR [19]#2155: 2150 Define patterns for JNodes
     * PR [20]#2123: 2051: XSLT group by cluster
     * PR [21]#2120: 2007 Revised design for xsl:array
     * PR [22]#2019: 1776: XSLT template rules for maps and array

1.6.3. Required for V4.0

   The following issues are labeled "required for V4.0".
     * Issue [23]#1777: Shallow copy in XSLT with maps and arrays
     * Issue [24]#1584: Review the XML Schema and RELAX NG schemas for
       XSLT 4.0 for compatibility
     * Issue [25]#1045: Functions to manage namespace usage
     * Issue [26]#1011: fn:transform() improvements
     * Issue [27]#986: Numeric Comparisons
     * Issue [28]#675: XSLT streaming rules for new constructs
     * Issue [29]#407: XSLT-specific context properties used in function
       items
     * Issue [30]#272: Setting parameter values in xsl:use-package

2. Technical agenda

2.1. PR #2202: New rules for schema-attribute and schema-element subtyping

   See PR [31]#2202.

2.2. PR #2200: 657 Allow user-defined functions in no namespace

   See PR [32]#2200.

2.3. PR #2176: 2130 encore: precedes-or-is, follows-or-is

   See PR [33]#2176.

2.4. PR #2175: 2093 Rearrange the order and grouping of functions

   See PR [34]#2175.

2.5. PR #2160: 2073 data model changes for JNodes and Sequences

   See PR [35]#2160.

2.6. PR #2071: 77c deep update

   See PR [36]#2071.

2.7. PR #2155: 2150 Define patterns for JNodes

   See PR [37]#2155.

2.8. PR #2123: 2051: XSLT group by cluster

   See PR [38]#2123.

2.9. PR #2120: 2007 Revised design for xsl:array

   See PR [39]#2120.

2.10. PR #2019: 1776: XSLT template rules for maps and array

   See PR [40]#2019.

3. Any other business

3.1. FYI: the path to standardization...

   The W3C held a meeting about Community Groups recently. One observation
   from that meeting is that the W3C does not consider Community Groups to
   be an appropriate place to do standards work. They're envisioned as
   incubators that lead to the formation of regular Working Groups or
   migration of the work to another standards development organization.

   I pointed out that there is no W3C Activity for XML-related
   standardization. One place to discuss this would be at the Technical
   Plenary but that's in Kobe, Japan this year and I don't think anyone in
   this CG is planning to go. (It will be in Dublin, Ireland next year and
   I will plan to go.)

   More discussion, with an eye towards forming a Working Group is
   expected in the following months. I have no prediction about how that
   will proceed.

References

   1. https://qt4cg.org/meeting/agenda/
   2. https://qt4cg.org/
   3. https://qt4cg.org/dashboard
   4. https://github.com/qt4cg/qtspecs/issues
   5. https://github.com/qt4cg/qtspecs/pulls
   6. https://us06web.zoom.us/j/83199966275?pwd=SmN6V0RhUGdSTHFHZkd6cjgxVEY2QT09
   7. https://qt4cg.org/meeting/logistics.html
   8. https://qt4cg.org/meeting/minutes/2025/08-19.html
   9. https://qt4cg.org/meeting/agenda/2025/09-23.html#technical-agenda
  10. https://qt4cg.org/dashboard/#pr-2124
  11. https://qt4cg.org/dashboard/#pr-2120
  12. https://qt4cg.org/dashboard/#pr-2019
  13. https://qt4cg.org/dashboard/#pr-2202
  14. https://qt4cg.org/dashboard/#pr-2200
  15. https://qt4cg.org/dashboard/#pr-2176
  16. https://qt4cg.org/dashboard/#pr-2175
  17. https://qt4cg.org/dashboard/#pr-2160
  18. https://qt4cg.org/dashboard/#pr-2071
  19. https://qt4cg.org/dashboard/#pr-2155
  20. https://qt4cg.org/dashboard/#pr-2123
  21. https://qt4cg.org/dashboard/#pr-2120
  22. https://qt4cg.org/dashboard/#pr-2019
  23. https://github.com/qt4cg/qtspecs/issues/1777
  24. https://github.com/qt4cg/qtspecs/issues/1584
  25. https://github.com/qt4cg/qtspecs/issues/1045
  26. https://github.com/qt4cg/qtspecs/issues/1011
  27. https://github.com/qt4cg/qtspecs/issues/986
  28. https://github.com/qt4cg/qtspecs/issues/675
  29. https://github.com/qt4cg/qtspecs/issues/407
  30. https://github.com/qt4cg/qtspecs/issues/272
  31. https://qt4cg.org/dashboard/#pr-2202
  32. https://qt4cg.org/dashboard/#pr-2200
  33. https://qt4cg.org/dashboard/#pr-2176
  34. https://qt4cg.org/dashboard/#pr-2175
  35. https://qt4cg.org/dashboard/#pr-2160
  36. https://qt4cg.org/dashboard/#pr-2071
  37. https://qt4cg.org/dashboard/#pr-2155
  38. https://qt4cg.org/dashboard/#pr-2123
  39. https://qt4cg.org/dashboard/#pr-2120
  40. https://qt4cg.org/dashboard/#pr-2019

                                        Be seeing you,
                                          norm

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Norm Tovey-Walsh
Saxonica

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