DRAFT XML Query/XSL WG Joint Teleconference #672 Agenda 2018-04-24

DRAFT XML Query/XSL WG Joint Teleconference #672 Agenda 2018-04-24

** THIS IS THE LAST SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE WG BEFORE CLOSURE **

Andy will chair this meeting.

PLEASE SEND CORRECTIONS AND ADDITIONS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO A REVISED 
AGENDA CAN BE PREPARED IN A TIMELY MANNER!

Changes in this agenda:



This week, I'd like us to work on the following items:
J4.2 (F&O)
J6.2 Relocation of qtspecs to GitHub
J6.3 Bug tracking to move to GitHub


Key:
J = Joint Query/XSLT meeting;
Q = Query-only meeting


Teleconference connection details
---------------------------------

*** PLEASE NOTE NEW CONNECTION DETAILS ***

(Member only)
TO BE CONFIRMED - check members only mailing list and IRC prior to 
meeting. 



SUMMARY OF DECISIONS
====================
Note to secretary: Please insert a summary of all decisions made during 
this teleconference at this location in the minutes.

Decisions MUST be clear as to their complete intent.  The subject of the 
decision should *not* require dereferencing; it is most helpful if 
agenda numbers and bug numbers are accompanied by their titles.  If a 
decision is recorded about the resolution of a bug, the decision must 
state exactly what the resolution is (e.g., "Accept the solution in 
comment #5", or "Replace the production for XXX with this: <new 
production>", or the like.  It should be possible to read a decision 
months later and be certain what it meant and whether or not it was 
properly applied.


NEW ACTION ITEMS
================
Note to secretary: Please insert all new action items assigned during 
this teleconference at this location in the minutes.

Action items MUST make sense even when they are viewed standalone (that 
is, not read in the context of the agenda item where they were 
assigned).  This explicitly requires that all referents (e.g., "this", 
"that") be made clear.  Action items such as "Ralph to resolve this 
problem" are DISALLOWED.  It takes a scribe only a few additional 
minutes to ensure that action items are clear, while it takes the entire 
WG considerable effort to constantly research the meaning of unclear 
action items.  The subject of the action item should *not* require 
dereferencing; it is most helpful if agenda numbers and bug numbers are 
accompanied by their titles.



===================================================
Joint XML Query Working Group and XSL Working Group
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J1. Administrative Items

J1.1 Selection of secretary(s)

Liam has been asked to take the minutes.  Josh has been asked to stand by.


NOTE: The chair will confirm the secretary prior to the start of the 
meeting.


Most recent secretaries (least-recent participants first):
----------------------------------------------------------
(This list identifies the most recent three occasions when each 
participant acted as Secretary for the Task Force.  The person whose 
name is at the top of the list should plan to take the minutes at the 
meeting identified by this agenda; if that person is unavailable, then 
the job will fall to the next person on the list, etc.

Liam Quin           - 2017-01-17, 2016-10-25, 2016-09-13
Josh Spiegel        - 2017-01-31, 2016-11-01, 2016-07-19
Jonathan Robie      - 2017-03-07, 2016-11-08, 2016-07-05
Mike Kay            - 2017-06-13, 2016-11-15, 2016-07-26
Michael Sprbrg-McQn - 2017-07-11, 2016-12-06, 2016-09-27
O'Neil Delpratt     - 2017-08-29, 2016-11-29, 2016-09-06
Michael Dyck        - 2017-12-19, 2017-01-10, 2016-10-04



J1.2 Call the Roll -- NOT DONE DURING TELECONFERENCE

Note to secretary: During the meeting, take a note of the Webex 
participants, then list in the minutes those present and those who sent 
regrets.  All others will be presumed to have been absent without regrets.


XML Query WG membership list: 
http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=18797&order=org

XSL WG membership list: 
http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=19552&order=org


Regrets:




J1.3 Approval of agenda

J1.3.1 Additions, deletions, or corrections?



J1.4 Review of recent minutes and administrative items

J1.4.1 Minutes of meeting #671 (Michael Dyck)
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2017Dec/0002.html


J1.5 Review of action items

NOTE: Please be prepared to respond quickly on your action items!

J1.5.1 Outstanding action items

(None)


J1.5.2 Completed action items


ACTION A-668-04 Josh to fix the expected result of test case 
Serialization-html-19c as suggested in bug 30120.

Status: Done. See
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=30120#c2

ACTION A-670-03: - Mike Kay to create an errata entry for the bug 30151 - 
Write properties section for fn:boolean and to provide text for what the 
default is for operators without a properties section.

Status: Closed. Erratum FO31.E2 addresses this


ACTION A-671-01 on Liam:
     to copy F+O errata document to its public location.

Status: Done. See: 
https://www.w3.org/XML/2017/qt-errata/xpath-functions-31-errata.html


ACTION A-671-02 on Andy:
     to work out which namespace docs need republishing (and maybe 
re-dating).

Status: Done. All republished with fixed links


ACTION A-671-03 on Michael Kay:
     to check in source XML for XPath/XQuery errata docs.

Status: Done. See https://github.com/w3c/qtspecs/tree/master/errata/build



J1.6 Update on related activities

J1.6.1 Update on XSLT WG activities (Sharon, MikeK)



J1.6.2 Update on EXPath/EXQuery CG activities (Mike)



J1.7 Future Meetings

J1.7.1 QT Meeting Schedule

[V49] Joint XML Query/XSL WG meeting schedule
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2017Sep/0000.html

* This WG is scheduled to close on 2018-04-30.  No further meetings are 
planned.


J1.7.2 Future F2F Meetings

J1.7.2.1 Other future F2F meetings

(none)


J2. Documents For Review

(none)



J3. Maintenance Issues

J3.0 The XML Query WG and XSLT WG do not intend to maintains specs 
earlier than the 3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches 
Recommendation, maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated.

This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other problems 
reported against the 3.1 suite of specifications.


J3.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of joint XML Query WG and 
XSLT WG documents

(none)



J4. Maintenance of 3.1 Specifications

J4.1 Data Model 3.1 (Andy)

J4.1.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/src/changes.txt

(none)


J4.2 Functions and Operators 3.1 (Mike Kay)

J4.2.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/src/changes.txt


* There are 2 editorial bugs currently open against F&O (30217 & 30237)
  - Please can we get these into the errata document?


J4.3 Serialization 3.1 (Michael Sperberg-McQueen, Andy)

J4.3.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/src/changes.txt

(none)


J4.4 XPath 3.1 (Jonathan)

J4.4.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt

(none)


J4.5 Grammar Test Applets (Michael Dyck)

(none)


J4.6 QT3 test suite (O'Neil)

J4.6.1 Status report on test suite, harness, tools


J4.6.2 Status of 3.1 tests results

Status: Currently five implementers submitted results



J5. Progression of Work

J5.1 XQuery 3.1, XQueryX 3.1, XPath 3.1, XDM 3.1, F&O 3.1, Serialization 
3.1

J5.1.1 Current status

* Recommendation


J5.1.2 Dependencies inhibiting progression


J5.2 Update 3.0

J5.2.1 Current Status

* Working Group Note

Insufficient resources and interest to continue development



J6. Any other business

J6.1 Consideration of future work

J6.1.1 QT 3.2

For a future Working Group


J6.1.2 FT 3.1

Currently inadequate interest and resources


J6.1.3 Update 3.1

Currently inadequate interest and resources


J6.2 Relocation of qtspecs to GitHub

The CVS qtspecs repository has been put on ice.  GitHub is now the single 
source of truth:
https://github.com/w3c/qtspecs

* Editors to read and action the instructions on accessing github:
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2017Oct/0009.html


J6.3 Bug tracking to move to GitHub

The process is now in place to close the Working Groups and still to be
able to update specs if needed.

The idea is
* flag github issues (on the qtspecs specs) as errata;
* at any time, anyone can ask W3C to republish a Rec with errata folded 
in:

1. an in-place update (e.g. for fixing links)
https://www.w3.org/2003/01/republishing/

or, for purely editorial changes
2. https://www.w3.org/Guide/transitions?profile=REC&rec=editorial
(no CR or PR needed, just a new Rec)

or, if there are substantive errata,
3. https://www.w3.org/Guide/transitions?profile=CR&cr=rec-amended
which needs test results.

A whole new version needs a Working Group again.

A W3C Community Group is free to join and could be used as a space for
people to track errata.

We can also update the specs in place on /TR to tell people to use
github instead of bugzilla.



J7. Adjourn




=======================
XML Query Working Group
=======================

Q1. The XML Query WG does not intend to maintains specs earlier than the 
3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches Recommendation, 
maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated.

Q1.0 This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other 
problems reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) XML Query WG suite of 
specifications.


Q1.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of XML Query WG documents

(none)



Q2. Active Specification Development

Q2.1 XQuery 3.1 (Jonathan)

Q2.1.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt

(none)


Q2.2 XQueryX 3.1 (Josh)

Q2.2.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/src/changes.txt

(none)


Q3. Test Suite Development

Q3.1 Update Facility 3.0 Test Suite (????)

* Need test suite developer/manager

* Need tests 



Q4. Any other business



Q5. Adjourn



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