Minutes: XSL WG Joint Teleconference #667 2017-03-07

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DRAFT XML Query/XSL WG Joint Teleconference #667 Agenda 2017-03-07


Andy will chair this meeting.

PLEASE SEND CORRECTIONS AND ADDITIONS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO A REVISED
AGENDA CAN BE PREPARED IN A TIMELY MANNER!

Changes in this agenda:



This week, I'd like us to work on the following items:
J4.2 (F&O)
J4.6 (Test suite)
J5   (Progression)


Key:
J = Joint Query/XSLT meeting;
Q = Query-only meeting


Teleconference connection details
---------------------------------

(Member only)
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2015Sep/0014.html



SUMMARY OF DECISIONS
====================
Note to secretary: Please insert a summary of all decisions made during
this teleconference at this location in the minutes.

Decisions MUST be clear as to their complete intent.  The subject of the
decision should *not* require dereferencing; it is most helpful if
agenda numbers and bug numbers are accompanied by their titles.  If a
decision is recorded about the resolution of a bug, the decision must
state exactly what the resolution is (e.g., "Accept the solution in
comment #5", or "Replace the production for XXX with this: <new
production>", or the like.  It should be possible to read a decision
months later and be certain what it meant and whether or not it was
properly applied.


NEW ACTION ITEMS
================
Note to secretary: Please insert all new action items assigned during
this teleconference at this location in the minutes.

Action items MUST make sense even when they are viewed standalone (that
is, not read in the context of the agenda item where they were
assigned).  This explicitly requires that all referents (e.g., "this",
"that") be made clear.  Action items such as "Ralph to resolve this
problem" are DISALLOWED.  It takes a scribe only a few additional
minutes to ensure that action items are clear, while it takes the entire
WG considerable effort to constantly research the meaning of unclear
action items.  The subject of the action item should *not* require
dereferencing; it is most helpful if agenda numbers and bug numbers are
accompanied by their titles.

% ACTION A-667-001 - Mike to fix Bug 30069 editorially.
% ACTION A-667-002:  O'Neil to remove the test associated with Bug 30023.


===================================================
Joint XML Query Working Group and XSL Working Group
===================================================


J1. Administrative Items

J1.1 Selection of secretary(s)

Abel has been asked to take the minutes.  Jonathan has been asked to stand
by.


NOTE: The chair will confirm the secretary prior to the start of the
meeting.


Most recent secretaries (least-recent participants first):
----------------------------------------------------------
(This list identifies the most recent three occasions when each
participant acted as Secretary for the Task Force.  The person whose
name is at the top of the list should plan to take the minutes at the
meeting identified by this agenda; if that person is unavailable, then
the job will fall to the next person on the list, etc.

Abel Braaksma       - 2016-10-18, 2016-06-28
Jonathan Robie      - 2016-11-08, 2016-07-05, 2016-04-12
Mike Kay            - 2016-11-15, 2016-07-26, 2016-04-26
O'Neil Delpratt     - 2016-11-29, 2016-09-06, 2016-04-19
Michael Sprbrg-McQn - 2016-12-06, 2016-09-27, 2016-06-07
Michael Dyck        - 2017-01-10, 2016-10-04, 2016-06-14
Liam Quin           - 2017-01-17, 2016-10-25, 2016-09-13
Josh Spiegel        - 2017-01-31, 2016-11-01, 2016-07-19



J1.2 Call the Roll -- NOT DONE DURING TELECONFERENCE

Note to secretary: During the meeting, take a note of the Webex
participants, then list in the minutes those present and those who sent
regrets.  All others will be presumed to have been absent without regrets.


XML Query WG membership list:
http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=18797&order=org

XSL WG membership list:
http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=19552&order=org


Regrets:




J1.3 Approval of agenda

J1.3.1 Additions, deletions, or corrections?

% Accepted without change.

J1.4 Review of recent minutes and administrative items

J1.4.1 Minutes of meeting #666 (Josh)
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2017Jan/0007.html

% Accepted without change.

J1.5 Review of action items

NOTE: Please be prepared to respond quickly on your action items!

J1.5.1 Outstanding action items


ACTION A-657-12: Abel to create more tests for fn:transform, as he
describes in bug 29834

Status: Pending; ETA 2016-11-26


ACTION A-661-04 (Bug 29997) Abel to fix up the dependencies on the
fn:transform tests and if appropriate resubmit results.

Status: Pending; ETA not specified.


ACTION A-662-04: MikeKay to investigate bug 29932

Status: Pending; ETA 2017-03-07

% New ETA 2017-04-04

ACTION A-663-02: MK to respond to original commentor (Thomas Fischer)
w.r.t. our decision on bug 30025 "[F+O3.1] array:join() - misleading
name" (WORKSFORME).

Status: Pending; ETA 2017-03-07

% New ETA 2017-04-04

ACTION A-663-03: MK to respond to original commentor w.r.t. our
decision on bug 30024 "[F+O 3.1] Is map:entry superfluous?" (FIXED).

Status: Pending; ETA 2017-03-07

% New ETA 2017-04-04

ACTION A-663-04: MK to address test suite bug 30023 [qt3ts]
fn-transform-err-9a (which he may already have fixed).

Status: Pending; ETA 2017-03-07

% New ETA 2017-04-04

ACTION-666-01 - Mike to update the namespace document as described in bug
30055.

DONE, not yet committed.

ACTION-666-03 - Mike to address editorial bugs 30055, 30053, 30052
Status: Pending; ETA not specified.

% New ETA 2017-04-04


J1.5.2 Completed action items


ACTION-666-02 - Josh to address editorial bugs 30051, 30050

Status: Closed; See
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2017Feb/0000.html


ACTION-666-04 - Andy to issue a revised meeting schedule.
Status: Closed; See
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2017Feb/0000.html



J1.6 Update on related activities

J1.6.1 Update on XSLT WG activities (Sharon, MikeK)

% f2f in Prague, officially closed CR comment period today.
% No substantive comments on the spec.  Critical path to get to PR:
% streaming results from Abel.


J1.6.2 Update on EXPath/EXQuery CG activities (Mike)



J1.7 Future Meetings

J1.7.1 QT Meeting Schedule

[V48] Joint XML Query/XSL WG meeting schedule
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2017Feb/0000.html



J1.7.2 Future F2F Meetings

J1.7.2.1 Other future F2F meetings

(none)


J2. Documents For Review

(none)



J3. Maintenance Issues

J3.0 The XML Query WG and XSLT WG do not intend to maintains specs
earlier than the 3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches
Recommendation, maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated.

This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other problems
reported against the 3.1 suite of specifications.


J3.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of joint XML Query WG and
XSLT WG documents

(none)



J4. Active Specification Development


** Note: Full Text 3.1 has been removed from the WG agenda.
If, in the future, there is sufficient interest (i.e. at least two
independent participants to develop the spec and implementations),
then this can be brought back on the agenda.



J4.1 Data Model 3.1 (Andy)

J4.1.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview.html

http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview-diff.html

http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/src/changes.txt


(none)


J4.2 Functions and Operators 3.1 (Mike Kay)

J4.2.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview.html

http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview-diff.html

http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/src/changes.txt



J4.2.1 Bug 30069 - [FO31] Error codes for option parameters
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=30069

Status: Ready to discuss

% Not purely editorial.  Only one reading makes good technical sense.
% Would not change the outcome of any test.
%
% Liam believes we can make this change without endangering progression.
%
% ACTION A-667-001 - Mike to fix Bug 30069 editorially.

J4.3 Serialization 3.1 (Michael Sperberg-McQueen, Andy)

J4.3.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview.html

http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview-diff.html

http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/src/changes.txt


(none)


J4.4 XPath 3.1 (Jonathan)

J4.4.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31.html

http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31-diff.html

http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt


(none)


J4.5 Grammar Test Applets (Michael Dyck)

(none)


J4.6 QT3 test suite (O'Neil)

J4.6.1 Status report on test suite, harness, tools

% Bug 30023 has an open comment.  All others have been
% addressed.
%
% Decided: we will remove this bug because it is no longer an error.
%
% ACTION A-667-002:  O'Neil to remove the test associated with Bug 30023.
%

J4.6.2 Status of 3.1 tests results

Status: Currently five implementers submitted results



J5. Progression of Work

J5.1 XQuery 3.1, XQueryX 3.1, XPath 3.1, XDM 3.1, F&O 3.1, Serialization
3.1

J5.1.1 Current status

* Proposed Recommendation


J5.1.2 Dependencies inhibiting progression

* REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request

% The W3C now decides when we move to REC status.  It looks good at
% this point.  Soonest - up to Andi, could be next Tuesday.  Latest - a
month
% from today.


J5.2 Update 3.0

J5.2.1 Current Status

* Working Group Note

Insufficient resources and interest to continue development



J6. Any other business

J6.1 Consideration of future work

J6.1.1 QT 3.2

The WGs decided that we will finish the 3.1 documents presently under way,
but undertake no new work. Maintenance work should be planned upon for a
period of time after finishing the specifications.


J6.1.2 FT 3.1

Currently inadequate interest and resources


J6.1.3 Update 3.1

Currently inadequate interest and resources



J7. Adjourn




=======================
XML Query Working Group
=======================

Q1. The XML Query WG does not intend to maintains specs earlier than the
3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches Recommendation,
maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated.

Q1.0 This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other
problems reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) XML Query WG suite of
specifications.


Q1.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of XML Query WG documents

(none)



Q2. Active Specification Development

Q2.1 XQuery 3.1 (Jonathan)

Q2.1.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31.html

http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31-diff.html

http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt


(none)


Q2.2 XQueryX 3.1 (Josh)

Q2.2.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview.html

http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview-diff.html

http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/src/changes.txt


(none)


Q3. Test Suite Development

Q3.1 Update Facility 3.0 Test Suite (????)

* Need test suite developer/manager

* Need tests



Q4. Any other business



Q5. Adjourn



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