MINUTES XML Query/XSL WG Joint Teleconference #666 Agenda 2017-01-31

> On Jan 27, 2017, at 6:41 AM, Andrew Coleman <andrew_coleman@uk.ibm.com <mailto:andrew_coleman@uk.ibm.com>> wrote:
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> DRAFT XML Query/XSL WG Joint Teleconference #666 Agenda 2017-01-31 
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> Andy will chair this meeting. 
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> PLEASE SEND CORRECTIONS AND ADDITIONS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO A REVISED 
> AGENDA CAN BE PREPARED IN A TIMELY MANNER! 
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> Changes in this agenda: 
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> This week, I'd like us to work on the following items: 
> J4.2 (F&O) 
> J4.6 (Test suite) 
> J5   (Progression) 
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> Key: 
> J = Joint Query/XSLT meeting; 
> Q = Query-only meeting 
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> Teleconference connection details 
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> (Member only) 
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2015Sep/0014.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2015Sep/0014.html> 
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> SUMMARY OF DECISIONS 
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DECISION: The working group will meet once a month. 

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> NEW ACTION ITEMS 
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ACTION-666-01 - Mike to update the namespace document as described in bug 30055.
ACTION-666-02 - Josh to address editorial bugs 30051, 30050
ACTION-666-03 - Mike to address editorial bugs 30055, 30053, 30052
ACTION-666-04 - Andy to issue a revised meeting schedule.  

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> Joint XML Query Working Group and XSL Working Group 
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> J1. Administrative Items 
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> J1.1 Selection of secretary(s) 
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> Abel has been asked to take the minutes.  Josh has been asked to stand by. 
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> NOTE: The chair will confirm the secretary prior to the start of the 
> meeting. 
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> Most recent secretaries (least-recent participants first): 
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> (This list identifies the most recent three occasions when each 
> participant acted as Secretary for the Task Force.  The person whose 
> name is at the top of the list should plan to take the minutes at the 
> meeting identified by this agenda; if that person is unavailable, then 
> the job will fall to the next person on the list, etc. 
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> Abel Braaksma       - 2016-10-18, 2016-06-28 
> Jonathan Robie      - 2016-11-08, 2016-07-05, 2016-04-12 
> Mike Kay            - 2016-11-15, 2016-07-26, 2016-04-26 
> O'Neil Delpratt     - 2016-11-29, 2016-09-06, 2016-04-19 
> Michael Sprbrg-McQn - 2016-12-06, 2016-09-27, 2016-06-07 
> Michael Dyck        - 2017-01-10, 2016-10-04, 2016-06-14 
> Liam Quin           - 2017-01-17, 2016-10-25, 2016-09-13 
Josh Spiegel        - 2016-01-31, 2016-11-01, 2016-07-19, 2016-03-15 
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> J1.2 Call the Roll -- NOT DONE DURING TELECONFERENCE 
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Josh Spiegel, Mike Kay, Andrew Coleman, Michael Sprbrg-McQn

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> XML Query WG membership list: 
> http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=18797&order=org <http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=18797&order=org> 
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> XSL WG membership list: 
> http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=19552&order=org <http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=19552&order=org> 
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> Regrets: 
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> J1.3 Approval of agenda 
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Approved.

> J1.3.1 Additions, deletions, or corrections? 
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> J1.4 Review of recent minutes and administrative items 
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> J1.4.1 Minutes of meeting #665 (Liam) 
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2017Jan/0007.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2017Jan/0007.html> 
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Approved.

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> J1.5 Review of action items 
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> NOTE: Please be prepared to respond quickly on your action items! 
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> J1.5.1 Outstanding action items 
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> ACTION A-657-12: ABr to create more tests for fn:transform, as he describes in bug 29834 
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> Status: Pending; ETA 2016-11-26 
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> ACTION A-661-04 (Bug 29997) AB to fix up the dependencies on the fn:transform tests and if appropriate resubmit results. 
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> Status: Pending; ETA not specified. 
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> ACTION A-662-04: MikeKay to investigate bug 29932 
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> Status: Pending; ETA 2017-01-31 

New ETA 2017-02-21

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> ACTION A-663-02: MK to respond to original commentor (Thomas Fischer) 
> w.r.t. our decision on bug 30025 "[F+O3.1] array:join() - misleading 
> name" (WORKSFORME). 
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> Status: Pending; ETA 2017-01-17 
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New ETA 2017-02-21

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> ACTION A-663-03: MK to respond to original commentor w.r.t. our 
> decision on bug 30024 "[F+O 3.1] Is map:entry superfluous?" (FIXED). 
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> Status: Pending; ETA 2017-01-17 

New ETA 2017-02-21

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> ACTION A-663-04: MK to address test suite bug 30023 [qt3ts] 
> fn-transform-err-9a (which he may already have fixed). 
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> Status: Pending; ETA 2017-01-31 
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New ETA 2017-02-21

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> J1.5.2 Completed action items 
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> ACTION A-661-06 (Bug 29949) OND to decide which approach to take and do it. Alternatives suggested include (a) adding a (rather specialized dependency) for these tests, or (b) dropping the tests, or (c) alternative results. 
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> Status: Closed; See 
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2017Jan/0006.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2017Jan/0006.html> 
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> ACTION A-664-01: O'Neil to resolve Bug 30038 (Test prod-AxisStep / 
> cbcl-path-nodes-and-atomics) as suggested in comment 0. 
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> Status: Closed; See 
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2017Jan/0001.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2017Jan/0001.html> 
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> ACTION A-664-02: O'Neil to resolve Bug 30039 (Schema substitution.xsd depends 
> on XSD 1.0) as indicated in comment 2. 
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> Status: Closed; See 
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2017Jan/0001.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2017Jan/0001.html> 
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> ACTION A-664-04: Andy to update status and submit pub requests for Update3.0 
> (both spec and Req+UC). 
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> Status: Closed (and published); See 
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2017Jan/0009.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2017Jan/0009.html> 
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> J1.6 Update on related activities 
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> J1.6.1 Update on XSLT WG activities (Sharon, MikeK) 
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Working on a 2nd CR publication For Feb. 7th.   Documents are in good shape, bugs are in good shape.  Test reports are now on the critical path.  

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> J1.6.2 Update on EXPath/EXQuery CG activities (Mike) 
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> J1.7 Future Meetings 
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> J1.7.1 QT Meeting Schedule 
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> [V47] Joint XML Query/XSL WG meeting schedule 
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2016Dec/0003.html <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2016Dec/0003.html> 
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Next two meetings are canceled, Andy can not chair.

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> J1.7.2 Future F2F Meetings 
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> J1.7.2.1 Other future F2F meetings 
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> (none) 
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> J2. Documents For Review 
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> (none) 
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> J3. Maintenance Issues 
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> J3.0 The XML Query WG and XSLT WG do not intend to maintains specs 
> earlier than the 3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches 
> Recommendation, maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated. 
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> This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other problems 
> reported against the 3.1 suite of specifications. 
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> J3.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of joint XML Query WG and 
> XSLT WG documents 
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> (none) 
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> J4. Active Specification Development 
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> ** Note: Full Text 3.1 has been removed from the WG agenda. 
> If, in the future, there is sufficient interest (i.e. at least two 
> independent participants to develop the spec and implementations), 
> then this can be brought back on the agenda. 
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> J4.1 Data Model 3.1 (Andy) 
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> J4.1.0 Internal working draft 
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview.html> 
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview-diff.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview-diff.html> 
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/src/changes.txt <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/src/changes.txt> 
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> (none) 
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> J4.2 Functions and Operators 3.1 (Mike Kay) 
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> J4.2.0 Internal working draft 
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview.html> 
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview-diff.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview-diff.html> 
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/src/changes.txt <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/src/changes.txt> 
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> J4.2.1 Bug 30055 - [F+O3.1] Namespace document for fn: namespace 
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=30055 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=30055> 
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> Status: Ready to discuss 
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ACTION-666-01 - Mike Kay update the namespace document as described in bug 30055. 


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> J4.3 Serialization 3.1 (Michael Sperberg-McQueen, Andy) 
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> J4.3.0 Internal working draft 
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview.html> 
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview-diff.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview-diff.html> 
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/src/changes.txt <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/src/changes.txt> 
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> (none) 
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> J4.4 XPath 3.1 (Jonathan) 
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> J4.4.0 Internal working draft 
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31.html> 
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31-diff.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31-diff.html> 
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt> 
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> (none) 
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> J4.5 Grammar Test Applets (Michael Dyck) 
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> (none) 
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> J4.6 QT3 test suite (O'Neil) 
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> J4.6.1 Status report on test suite, harness, tools 
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> J4.6.2 Status of 3.1 tests results 
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> Status: Currently five implementers submitted results 
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> J5. Progression of Work 
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> J5.1 XQuery 3.1, XQueryX 3.1, XPath 3.1, XDM 3.1, F&O 3.1, Serialization 3.1 
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> J5.1.1 Current status 
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> * Proposed Recommendation 
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> J5.1.2 Dependencies inhibiting progression 
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> * REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request 
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> J5.2 Update 3.0 
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> J5.2.1 Current Status 
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> * Working Group Note 
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> Insufficient resources and interest to continue development 
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> J6. Any other business 
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> J6.1 Consideration of future work 
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> J6.1.1 QT 3.2 
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> The WGs decided that we will finish the 3.1 documents presently under way, 
> but undertake no new work. Maintenance work should be planned upon for a 
> period of time after finishing the specifications. 
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> J6.1.2 FT 3.1 
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> Currently inadequate interest and resources 
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> J6.1.3 Update 3.1 
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> Currently inadequate interest and resources 
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> J7. Adjourn 
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> XML Query Working Group 
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> Q1. The XML Query WG does not intend to maintains specs earlier than the 
> 3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches Recommendation, 
> maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated. 
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> Q1.0 This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other 
> problems reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) XML Query WG suite of 
> specifications. 
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> Q1.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of XML Query WG documents 
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> (none) 
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> Q2. Active Specification Development 
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> Q2.1 XQuery 3.1 (Jonathan) 
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> Q2.1.0 Internal working draft 
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31.html> 
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31-diff.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31-diff.html> 
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt> 
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> (none) 
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> Q2.2 XQueryX 3.1 (Josh) 
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> Q2.2.0 Internal working draft 
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview.html> 
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview-diff.html <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview-diff.html> 
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/src/changes.txt <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/src/changes.txt> 
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> (none) 
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> Q3. Test Suite Development 
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> Q3.1 Update Facility 3.0 Test Suite (????) 
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> * Need test suite developer/manager 
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> * Need tests 
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> Q4. Any other business 
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> Q5. Adjourn 
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