- From: Tim Mills <tim@cbcl.co.uk>
- Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 15:35:26 +0000
- To: public-xsl-query@w3.org
MINUTES XML Query/XSL WG Joint Teleconference #637 Agenda 2016-03-22 Andy will chair this meeting. PLEASE SEND CORRECTIONS AND ADDITIONS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO A REVISED AGENDA CAN BE PREPARED IN A TIMELY MANNER! Changes in this agenda: This week, I'd like us to work on the following items: J4.2 (F&O) J4.4 (XPath) Key: J = Joint Query/XSLT meeting; Q = Query-only meeting Teleconference connection details --------------------------------- (Member only) https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2015Sep/0014.html SUMMARY OF DECISIONS ==================== Note to secretary: Please insert a summary of all decisions made during this teleconference at this location in the minutes. Decisions MUST be clear as to their complete intent. The subject of the decision should *not* require dereferencing; it is most helpful if agenda numbers and bug numbers are accompanied by their titles. If a decision is recorded about the resolution of a bug, the decision must state exactly what the resolution is (e.g., "Accept the solution in comment #5", or "Replace the production for XXX with this: <new production>", or the like. It should be possible to read a decision months later and be certain what it meant and whether or not it was properly applied. DECISION: Bug 29419 (edge case with negative integer literals). Comment #8 in Bug 29419 accepted. NEW ACTION ITEMS ================ Note to secretary: Please insert all new action items assigned during this teleconference at this location in the minutes. Action items MUST make sense even when they are viewed standalone (that is, not read in the context of the agenda item where they were assigned). This explicitly requires that all referents (e.g., "this", "that") be made clear. Action items such as "Ralph to resolve this problem" are DISALLOWED. It takes a scribe only a few additional minutes to ensure that action items are clear, while it takes the entire WG considerable effort to constantly research the meaning of unclear action items. The subject of the action item should *not* require dereferencing; it is most helpful if agenda numbers and bug numbers are accompanied by their titles. ACTION A-637-01. MKay to respond to Bug 29534 - format-number. ACTION A-637-02: JRobie to include the note in Comment #8 of Bug 29419. ACTION A-637-03: O'Neil to respond to Bug 29408 (Precision in extvardeclwithouttype-18) =================================================== Joint XML Query Working Group and XSL Working Group =================================================== J1. Administrative Items J1.1 Selection of secretary(s) Tim has been asked to take the minutes. Norm has been asked to stand by. NOTE: The chair will confirm the secretary prior to the start of the meeting. Most recent secretaries (least-recent participants first): ---------------------------------------------------------- (This list identifies the most recent three occasions when each participant acted as Secretary for the Task Force. The person whose name is at the top of the list should plan to take the minutes at the meeting identified by this agenda; if that person is unavailable, then the job will fall to the next person on the list, etc. Norm Walsh - 2015-12-15, 2015-09-22, 2015-05-05 Jonathan Robie - 2016-01-05, 2015-09-29, 2015-05-12 John Snelson - 2015-01-12, 2015-07-16, 2015-06-02 Liam Quin - 2016-01-19, 2015-10-06, 2015-06-16 Adam Retter - 2015-01-26, 2015-10-20, 2015-04-21 O'Neil Delpratt - 2016-02-02, 2015-10-27, 2015-06-23 Michael Sprbrg-McQn - 2016-02-09, 2015-10-03, 2015-06-09 Mike Kay - 2016-03-01, 2015-11-10, 2015-07-15 Michael Dyck - 2016-03-08, 2015-11-17, 2015-09-01 Josh Spiegel - 2016-03-15, 2015-12-01, 2015-09-08 Tim Mills - 2016-03-22, 2015-12-08, 2015-09-15 J1.2 Call the Roll -- NOT DONE DURING TELECONFERENCE Note to secretary: During the meeting, take a note of the Webex participants, then list in the minutes those present and those who sent regrets. All others will be presumed to have been absent without regrets. XML Query WG membership list: http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=18797&order=org XSL WG membership list: http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=19552&order=org Present: * Carine Bournez - Andy Coleman - O'Neil Delpratt - Michael Dyck - Michael Kay - Tim Mills - Liam Quin * Adam Retter * Jonathan Robie - Norm Walsh J1.3 Approval of agenda J1.3.1 Additions, deletions, or corrections? NONE. J1.4 Review of recent minutes and administrative items J1.4.1 Minutes of meeting #636 (Josh) https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Mar/0029.html APPROVED. J1.5 Review of action items NOTE: Please be prepared to respond quickly on your action items! J1.5.1 Outstanding action items ACTION A-632-03: Mike to add a clarification text and example to bug 29415 Status: CLOSED. https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Mar/0033.html ACTION A-634-01 (bug 29415) Mike K to fix regex text as proposed in bug 29415 (and close the bug) Status: CLOSED ACTION A-634-03: (bug 29496) MikeK to implement the minuted decision on bug 29496 and close the bug. Status: CLOSED ACTION A-634-04 (bug 29498) Jonathan to ensure that all terms that use RFC rendition (e.g. "required", "recommended") are listed in the terminology section. Status: Pending; ETA 2016-03-22 ACTION A-635-01: MKay to make the changes he proposed in comment 6 of Bug 29404 ([QT3] anyURI in fn:collection). Status: CLOSED ACTION A-635-03: MDyck to propose a solution to Bug 29501 re parsing colons. Status: Pending; ETA 2016-04-12 ACTION A-635-04: JRobie to editorially fix Bug 29487 (Section 3.11.3.1 Unary Lookup wrongly compares array?* to array:flatten) Status: Pending; ETA 2016-03-22 ACTION A-635-05: O'Neil to go through the bugs in the defunct Bugzilla component "XML Query Test Suite", closing or moving each as appropriate. Status: Pending; ETA 2016-04-12 ACTION A-636-02: MKay to resolve bug 29522 by clarifying the error conditions do not apply when the ‘q’ flag is not present. Status: CLOSED ACTION A-636-03: MKay to adopt resolution of bug 29373 proposed in comment 1. Status: CLOSED ACTION A-636-04: MKay to adopt the proposal in comment 19 of bug 29488 and fix the expected result of format-integer-030. Status: CLOSED ACTION A-636-06: Jonathan to ensure that the classification of functions implemented by an XQuery expression covers the case where the function body is empty. Status: Pending; ETA not specified. ACTION A-636-07: Jonathan to respond the following message from Michael Dyck: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Mar/0027.html Status: Pending; ETA not specified. ACTION A-636-08: Jonathan to adopt the proposal in comment 0 of bug 29526. Status: Pending; ETA not specified. ACTION A-636-09: Michael Dyck to revert the grammar so that ExtensionExpr does use EnclosedExpr (see bug 29526). Status: CLOSED https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Mar/0032.html J1.5.2 Completed action items ACTION A-635-06: MKay to write a response to bug 27734 (<assert-xml ignore-prefixes="true") Status: Closed; replaced by A-636-01 ACTION A-635-07: O'Neil to regenerate the test suite catalog schema HTML. Status: Closed; See https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2016Mar/0026.html ACTION A-636-01: MKay to add ignore-prefixes=“true” to the following tests K2-ComputeConAttr-51, K2-ComputeConAttr-53, K2-ComputeConAttr-51, K2-ComputeConAttr-53 Status: Closed; See https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Mar/0030.html ACTION A-636-05: MKay to propose a revision to the note in comment 7 of bug 29419. Status: Closed; See https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29419#c8 J1.6 Update on related activities J1.6.1 Update on XSLT WG activities (Sharon, MikeK) J1.6.2 Update on EXPath/EXQuery CG activities (Mike) J1.7 Future Meetings J1.7.1 QT Meeting Schedule [V44] Joint XML Query/XSL WG meeting schedule https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2015Dec/0000.html Next meeting is CANCELLED. Next meeting April 5th (Liam to chair). J1.7.2 Future F2F Meetings J1.7.2.1 Other future F2F meetings None scheduled. J2. Documents For Review (none) J3. Maintenance Issues J3.0 The XML Query WG and XSLT WG do not intend to maintains specs earlier than the 3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches Recommendation, maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated. This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other problems reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) suite of specifications. J3.0.1 Concerns raised by the XSLT working group in regards to potential completion delays of XSLT 3.0 if XPath 3.0 is made obsoleted by 3.1 Status: Pending the outcome of Abel's review of 3.0 bugs/errata. Any change to the status of the 3.0 specs requires explicit XSL WG consultation. J3.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of joint XML Query WG and XSLT WG documents (none) J4. Active Specification Development ** Note: Full Text 3.1 has been removed from the WG agenda. If, in the future, there is sufficient interest (i.e. at least two independent participants to develop the spec and implementations), then this can be brought back on the agenda. J4.1 Data Model 3.1 (Norm) J4.1.0 Internal working draft http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview-diff.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/src/changes.txt (none) J4.2 Functions and Operators 3.1 (Mike Kay) J4.2.0 Internal working draft http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview-diff.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/src/changes.txt J4.2.1 Bug 29534 - format-number https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29534 Status: Ready to discuss MikeK has already updated the F&O text. ACTION A-637-01. MKay to respond to Bug 29534 - format-number. J4.3 Serialization 3.1 (Michael Sperberg-McQueen, Andy) J4.3.0 Internal working draft http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview-diff.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/src/changes.txt (none) J4.4 XPath 3.1 (Jonathan) J4.4.0 Internal working draft http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31-diff.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt J4.4.1 Bug 29501 - [xp31] Colon is not in the list of non-terminal symbols https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29501 Status: Pending completion of A-635-03 (MDyck) J4.4.3 Bug 29419 - [XP31] edge case with negative integer literals (UnaryExpr) and limits for -9223372036854775808, which cannot be parsed https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29419 See Mike's comment #8 Status: Ready to discuss DECISION: Bug 29419 (edge case with negative integer literals). Comment #8 in Bug 29419 accepted. ACTION A-637-02: JRobie to include the note in Comment #8 of Bug 29419. J4.4.4 Bug 29277 - [XP31] Evaluating function calls does not mention evaluation of dynamic or static function calls that have no FunctionBody https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29277 Status: Ready to discuss Pending resolution of ACTION A-636-07: Jonathan to respond the following message from Michael Dyck: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2016Mar/0027.html J4.4.2 Bug 29509 - Functions: External, Implementation-Defined, Host Language https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29509 Status: Pending resolution of bug 29277 J4.5 Grammar Test Applets (Michael Dyck) J4.5.1 Bugzilla Bug 13796, [Applet30] \u escaped characters in grammar applets http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13796 Status: Pending J4.6 QT3 test suite (O'Neil) ACTION A-637-03: O'Neil to respond to Bug 29408 (Precision in extvardeclwithouttype-18) J4.6.1 Status report on test suite, harness, tools J4.6.2 Status of 3.1 tests results Status: Currently three implementers submitted results J5. Progression of Work J5.1 XSLT 3.0, XQuery 3.1, XQueryX 3.1, XPath 3.1, XDM 3.1, F&O 3.1, Serialization 3.1 J5.1.1 Current status * In Candidate Recommendation; awaiting implementation reports J5.1.2 Dependencies inhibiting progression * Completion of test suite minimum-required-to-declare-victory * Sufficient implementation experience and reports thereof * Formal response to all comments, responses accepted by commenters * PR Transition Request and authorization, PR pub request * REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request J5.2 Update 3.0 J5.2.1 Current Status * In Last Call Working Draft At XML Prague, Liam talked to a few people about XQuery Update but found no great enthusiasm for doing the work. We cannot progress without plans for a test suite and potential implementers. The WG needs to decide what to do with this spec. Status: Ready to discuss J5.2.2 Require owner of XQUF 3.0 Test Suite J5.2.3 Dependencies inhibiting progression * CR Transition Request and authorization, CR pub request * Completion of test suite minimum-required-to-declare-victory * Sufficient implementation experience and reports thereof * Formal response to all comments, responses accepted by commenters * PR Transition Request and authorization, PR pub request * REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request J6. Any other business J6.1 Consideration of future work J6.1.1 QT 3.2 The WGs decided that we will finish the 3.1 documents presently under way, but undertake no new work. Maintenance work should be planned upon for a period of time after finishing the specifications. J6.1.2 FT 3.1 Currently inadequate interest and resources J6.1.3 Update 3.1 Currently inadequate interest and resources J7. Adjourn ======================= XML Query Working Group ======================= Q1. The XML Query WG does not intend to maintains specs earlier than the 3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches Recommendation, maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated. Q1.0 This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other problems reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) XML Query WG suite of specifications. Q1.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of XML Query WG documents (none) Q2. Active Specification Development Q2.1 XQuery Update Facility 3.0 (John) Q2.1.0 Internal working draft http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview-diff.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/src/changes.txt * The WG needs to obtain implementation experience with this document. Q2.2 XQuery Update Facility 3.0 Requirements and Use Cases (Andy) See http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/requirements/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html * The WGs need to be certain that this document is completed (red/yellow/green bullets on requirements, all the use cases intended to be published) and a decision made to advance it to WG Note. Q2.3 XQuery 3.1 (Jonathan) Q2.3.0 Internal working draft http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31-diff.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt (none) Q2.4 XQueryX 3.1 (Josh) Q2.4.0 Internal working draft http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview-diff.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/src/changes.txt (none) Q3. Test Suite Development Q3.1 Update Facility 3.0 Test Suite (????) * Need test suite developer/manager * Need tests Q4. Any other business Q5. Adjourn
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