- From: Andrew Coleman <andrew_coleman@uk.ibm.com>
- Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2015 14:47:27 +0100
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DRAFT XML Query/XSL WG Joint Teleconference #618 Agenda 2015-09-29
Andy will chair this meeting.
PLEASE SEND CORRECTIONS AND ADDITIONS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO A REVISED
AGENDA CAN BE PREPARED IN A TIMELY MANNER!
Changes in this agenda:
(none)
This week, I'd like us to work on the following items:
J4.7
J4.9
Q2.3
Key:
J = Joint Query/XSLT meeting;
Q = Query-only meeting
Teleconference connection details
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(Member only)
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2015Sep/0014.html
SUMMARY OF DECISIONS
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Note to secretary: Please insert a summary of all decisions made during
this teleconference at this location in the minutes.
Decisions MUST be clear as to their complete intent. The subject of the
decision should *not* require dereferencing; it is most helpful if
agenda numbers and bug numbers are accompanied by their titles. If a
decision is recorded about the resolution of a bug, the decision must
state exactly what the resolution is (e.g., "Accept the solution in
comment #5", or "Replace the production for XXX with this: <new
production>", or the like. It should be possible to read a decision
months later and be certain what it meant and whether or not it was
properly applied.
NEW ACTION ITEMS
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Note to secretary: Please insert all new action items assigned during
this teleconference at this location in the minutes.
Action items MUST make sense even when they are viewed standalone (that
is, not read in the context of the agenda item where they were
assigned). This explicitly requires that all referents (e.g., "this",
"that") be made clear. Action items such as "Ralph to resolve this
problem" are DISALLOWED. It takes a scribe only a few additional
minutes to ensure that action items are clear, while it takes the entire
WG considerable effort to constantly research the meaning of unclear
action items. The subject of the action item should *not* require
dereferencing; it is most helpful if agenda numbers and bug numbers are
accompanied by their titles.
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Joint XML Query Working Group and XSL Working Group
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J1. Administrative Items
J1.1 Selection of secretary(s)
Adam has been asked to take the minutes. Jonathan has been asked to stand
by.
NOTE: The chair will confirm the secretary prior to the start of the
meeting.
Most recent secretaries (least-recent participants first):
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(This list identifies the most recent three occasions when each
participant acted as Secretary for the Task Force. The person whose
name is at the top of the list should plan to take the minutes at the
meeting identified by this agenda; if that person is unavailable, then
the job will fall to the next person on the list, etc.
Adam Retter - 2015-04-21, 2015-01-20, 2014-09-23
Jonathan Robie - 2015-05-12, 2015-01-13, 2014-10-28
Michael Sprbrg-McQn - 2015-06-09, 2015-03-03, 2014-11-25
Liam Quin - 2015-06-16, 2015-03-10, 2014-10-27
O'Neil Delpratt - 2015-06-23, 2015-03-17, 2014-12-02
Mike Kay - 2015-07-15, 2015-04-14, 2015-01-06
John Snelson - 2015-07-16, 2015-06-02, 2015-02-11
Loren Cahlander - 2015-07-17, 2015-05-19, 2015-02-10
Michael Dyck - 2015-09-01, 2015-03-31, 2014-12-16
Josh Spiegel - 2015-09-08, 2015-03-24, 2014-12-09
Tim Mills - 2015-09-15, 2015-04-21, 2015-02-03
Norm Walsh - 2015-09-22, 2015-05-05, 2015-01-27
J1.2 Call the Roll -- NOT DONE DURING TELECONFERENCE
Note to secretary: During the meeting, take a note of the Webex
participants, then list in the minutes those present and those who sent
regrets. All others will be presumed to have been absent without regrets.
XML Query WG membership list:
http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=18797&order=org
XSL WG membership list:
http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=19552&order=org
Regrets:
J1.3 Approval of agenda
J1.3.1 Additions, deletions, or corrections?
J1.4 Review of recent minutes and administrative items
J1.4.1 Minutes of meeting #616 (Norm)
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2015Sep/0090.html
J1.5 Review of action items
NOTE: Please be prepared to respond quickly on your action items!
J1.5.1 Outstanding action items
ACTION A-579-18: Jonathan to write change proposal to support update of
maps and arrays. (See agenda item Q2.1.1)
Status: Pending; ETA 2015-11-24
ACTION A-585-04: Jonathan to write a concrete proposal for XQuery Update
3.1 that makes preservation of node identity implementation defined at
the persistence layer.
See https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2014Nov/0012.html
Status: Pending; ETA 2015-11-24
ACTION A-613-04 O'Neil to ensure that the use cases in the XQuery 3.1
requirements and use cases document are added to the QT3 test suite.
Status: Pending; ETA 2015-09-29
ACTION A-613-26: Norm Walsh to replace the text in XDM 3.1 section
17.1 by implementing the changes from comment 6 of bug 28795.
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=28795#c6
Status: Pending; ETA 2015-09-29
ACTION A-613-30: Jonathan Robie to editorially resolve bug
27059. Include the example of function coercion against a map item
from comment 4 of bug 27059.
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=27059#c4
Status: Pending; ETA 2015-09-29
ACTION A-614-01 on JRobie to work with Zed to build FT 3.1 docs before
checking them in.
Status: Pending; ETA 2015-09-29
ACTION A-614-11 on JRobie re Bug 28966: make the change described in the
bug
and mark the bug fixed.
Status: Pending; ETA 2015-09-29
ACTION A-614-13 on JRobie to propose wording to resolve Bug 29027.
Status: Pending; ETA 2015-09-29
ACTION A-616-01: Loren to explain the changes he made to the
serialization schema in response to Josh's email.
Status: Pending; ETA not specified.
ACTION A-616-02: Michael SpMQ to make changes to serialization
specification detailed in
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26862
Status: Pending; ETA 2015-09-29
ACTION A-616-05: MikeK to add note to F&O offering more explanation in
light of decision on Bug 20602 - [QT3TS] fn-resolve-uri-32.
Status: Pending; ETA not specified.
ACTION A-616-06: MikeK to update specification in light of adoption of
proposal in Comment #2
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29009#c2
Status: Pending; ETA not specified.
ACTION A-616-07: MikeK to update specification regarding J4.7.3 Bug 29024
- fn:serialize needs clarification when method parameter set from a map
and J4.7.4 Bug 29028 - fn:serialize should specify the required type for
QNames-type with accepted proposal in
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29024#c3
Status: Pending; ETA not specified.
ACTION A-617-01 Jonathan to bring discussion of bug 29119 to the mailing
list.
Status: Pending; ETA not specified.
ACTION A-617-02: Michael Dyck to write a grammar for string templates with
names and delimiters he chooses.
Status: Pending; ETA 2015-09-29
ACTION A-617-04: ETA 2015-09-29 Jonathan to write prose for the section
on string templates.
Status: Pending; ETA 2015-09-29
J1.5.2 Completed action items
ACTION A-613-23: Norm Walsh to implement the changes from comment 3
and 4 of bug 28299 in XDM 3.1, including moving the definition of
xs:numeric from F&O 3.1 to XDM 3.1. All other editors to refer to the
definition of xs:numeric in XDM 3.1.
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=28299#c3
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=28299#c4
Status: Closed; See
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2015Sep/0089.html
ACTION A-616-03: Andy to contact Christian to see if he would take
ownership of the XQUTS.
Status: Closed; Discussed in a private communication. Christian would
like to defer any descision on this for a few months.
ACTION A-616-04: JRobie to update smart quotes (AKA string templates)
proposal with syntax discussed.
Status: Closed; Discussed on mailing list
ACTION A-617-03: Jonathan to start an email discussion about the
selection of actual delimiters.
Status: Closed; See
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2015Sep/0091.html
J1.6 Update on related activities
J1.6.1 Update on XSLT WG activities (Sharon, MikeK)
J1.6.2 Update on EXPath/EXQuery CG activities (Loren)
J1.7 Future Meetings
J1.7.1 QT Meeting Schedule
[V43] Joint XML Query/XSL WG meeting schedule
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2015Jul/0038.html
J1.7.2 Future F2F Meetings
J1.7.2.1 Other future F2F meetings
The XML Query WG decided NOT to meet in conjunction with the W3C Tech
Plenary in October 2015 in Hokkaido, Japan.
There is interest in a possible F2F in conjunction with XML Prague in
February 2016.
J2. Documents For Review
(none)
J3. Maintenance Issues
J3.0 The XML Query WG and XSLT WG do not intend to maintains specs
earlier than the 3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches
Recommendation, maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated.
This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other problems
reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) suite of specifications.
J3.0.1 Concerns raised by the XSLT working group in regards to potential
completion delays of XSLT 3.0 if XPath 3.0 is made obsoleted by 3.1
Status: Pending the outcome of Abel's review of 3.0 bugs/errata.
Any change to the status of the 3.0 specs requires explicit XSL WG
consultation.
J3.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of joint XML Query WG and
XSLT WG documents
J3.1.1 Bugzilla Bug 24568, Is the type system really a lattice? Or just
a partially ordered set?
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24568
Status: Fixed in Data Model 3.1; not expected to be addressed in Data
Model 3.0
J3.1.2 Bugzilla Bug 25231, [F+O 3.0 ONLY], ISO 8601, and XSD 1.1
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25231
Status: Fixed in F&O 3.1; not expected to be addressed in F&O 3.0
J3.1.3 Bugzilla Bug 26788, [XPath30] XQuery-only errors in XPath 3.0
specification, like XQST0134"
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26788
Status: Fixed in XPath 3.1; not expected to be addressed in XPath 3.0
J4. Active Specification Development
J4.1 Full Text 3.0 (Jim)
J4.1.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-full-text-30/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-full-text-30/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-full-text-30/src/changes.txt
(none)
J4.2 Full Text 3.0 Requirements and Use Cases (Jim)
J4.2.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/requirements/xpath-full-text-30/html/Overview.html
(none)
J4.3 Full Text 3.1 (Zed Zhou)
J4.1.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-full-text-31/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-full-text-31/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-full-text-31/src/changes.txt
Zed Zhou should prepare a draft of this document with at least some
technical changes (relative to Full Text 3.0) already made so the WGs
can consider if they like the direction.
J4.4 Full Text 3.1 Requirements and Use Cases (Zed Zhou)
J4.4.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/requirements/xpath-full-text-31/html/Overview.html
Zed Zhou should prepare a draft of this document with the necessary
requirements and at least some use cases for the WGs to consider. We
should spend significant time determining which requirements the WGs
will accept.
J4.5 XPath and XQuery 3.1 Requirements and Use Cases (Jonathan)
J4.5.0 Internal working drafts
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/requirements/xquery-31/html/Overview.html
(none)
J4.6 Data Model 3.1 (Norm)
J4.6.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/src/changes.txt
(none)
J4.7 Functions and Operators 3.1 (Mike Kay)
J4.7.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/src/changes.txt
J4.7.1 Bug 28845 - fn:format-number, formatting rules for exponential
notation
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=28845
Status: Ready to discuss; See
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2015Sep/0008.html
J4.7.2 Bug 29044 - array:sort does not define a total order when keys
contain NaN
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29044
Status: Ready to discuss
J4.7.3 Bug 29145 - [XP31] rogue TERMDEF in 16.3.2
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29145
Status: Ready to discuss
J4.7.4 Bug 29146 - [FO31] fn:transform options update
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29146
Status: Ready to discuss
J4.8 Serialization 3.1 (Michael Sperberg-McQueen, Andy)
J4.8.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/src/changes.txt
(none)
J4.9 XPath 3.1 (Jonathan)
J4.9.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt
J4.9.1 Bug 29119 - [XP31] xs:error always raises a type error
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29119
Status: Ready to discuss
J4.9.2 Bug 29143 - [XP31] CurlyArrayConstructor suggests XQuery-only
expressions
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29143
Status: Ready to discuss
J4.9.3 Bug 29144 - [XP31] section I.3 Changes in the Candidate
Recommendation references XQuery, not XPath
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29144
Status: Ready to discuss
J4.10 Grammar Test Applets (Michael Dyck)
J4.10.1 Bugzilla Bug 13796, [Applet30] \u escaped characters in grammar
applets
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13796
Status: Pending
J4.11 QT3 test suite (O'Neil)
J4.11.1 Status report on test suite, harness, tools
J4.11.2 Status of 3.1 tests
Status: Coverage is almost complete.
J4.11.3 Publication of test suite.
Status: Ready to discuss
J4.12 FT 3.1 test suite (???)
* Need test suite developer/manager
* Need tests
J5. Progression of Work
J5.1 XSLT 3.0, XQuery 3.1, XQueryX 3.1, XPath 3.1, XDM 3.1, F&O 3.1,
Serialization 3.1
J5.1.1 Current status
* In Candidate Recommendation; awaiting implementation reports
J5.1.2 Dependencies inhibiting progression
* Completion of test suite minimum-required-to-declare-victory
* Sufficient implementation experience and reports thereof
* Formal response to all comments, responses accepted by commenters
* PR Transition Request and authorization, PR pub request
* REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request
J5.2 Full Text 3.0
J5.2.1 Current Status
* Proposed Recommendation
J5.2.2 Dependencies inhibiting progression
* REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request
J5.3 Update 3.0
J5.3.1 Current Status
* In Last Call Working Draft
J5.3.2 Require owner of XQUF 3.0 Test Suite
J5.3.3 Dependencies inhibiting progression
* CR Transition Request and authorization, CR pub request
* Completion of test suite minimum-required-to-declare-victory
* Sufficient implementation experience and reports thereof
* Formal response to all comments, responses accepted by commenters
* PR Transition Request and authorization, PR pub request
* REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request
J6. Any other business
J6.1 Consideration of future work
J6.1.1 QT 3.2
The WGs decided that we will finish the 3.1 documents presently under way,
but undertake no new work. Maintenance work should be planned upon for a
period of time after finishing the specifications.
J6.1.2 FT 3.1
EMC has expressed interest and is willing to provide resources
J6.1.3 Update 3.1
Unclear whether there is adequate interest or resources
J7. Adjourn
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XML Query Working Group
=======================
Q1. The XML Query WG does not intend to maintains specs earlier than the
3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches Recommendation,
maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated.
Q1.0 This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other
problems reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) XML Query WG suite of
specifications.
Status: Pending completion of ACTION A-592-02.
Q1.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of XML Query WG documents
(none)
Q2. Active Specification Development
Q2.1 XQuery Update Facility 3.0 (John)
Q2.1.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/src/changes.txt
* The WG needs to obtain implementation experience with this document.
Q2.2 XQuery Update Facility 3.0 Requirements and Use Cases (Andy)
See
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/requirements/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html
* The WGs need to be certain that this document is completed
(red/yellow/green bullets on requirements, all the use cases intended to
be published) and a decision made to advance it to WG Note.
Q2.3 XQuery 3.1 (Jonathan)
Q2.3.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt
Q2.3.1 String Templates (smart quotes)
See
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2015Sep/0072.html
Status: Ready to discuss
Q2.3.2 Bug 29027 - [qt3] contextDecl-022
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29027
Status: Pending completion of A-614-13
Q2.4 XQueryX 3.1 (Josh)
Q2.4.0 Internal working draft
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview-diff.html
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/src/changes.txt
(none)
Q3. Test Suite Development
Q3.1 Update Facility 3.0 Test Suite (????)
* Need test suite developer/manager
* Need tests
Q4. Any other business
Q5. Adjourn
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