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- Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 16:15:06 +0000
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DRAFT XML Query/XSL WG Joint Teleconference #627 Agenda 2015-12-15 Andy will chair this meeting. PLEASE SEND CORRECTIONS AND ADDITIONS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO A REVISED AGENDA CAN BE PREPARED IN A TIMELY MANNER! Changes in this agenda: This week, I'd like us to work on the following items: J4.2 (F&O) J4.4 (XPath) J4.6 (Test Suite) Q2.3 Key: J = Joint Query/XSLT meeting; Q = Query-only meeting Teleconference connection details --------------------------------- (Member only) https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2015Sep/0014.html SUMMARY OF DECISIONS ==================== Note to secretary: Please insert a summary of all decisions made during this teleconference at this location in the minutes. Decisions MUST be clear as to their complete intent. The subject of the decision should *not* require dereferencing; it is most helpful if agenda numbers and bug numbers are accompanied by their titles. If a decision is recorded about the resolution of a bug, the decision must state exactly what the resolution is (e.g., "Accept the solution in comment #5", or "Replace the production for XXX with this: <new production>", or the like. It should be possible to read a decision months later and be certain what it meant and whether or not it was properly applied. NEW ACTION ITEMS ================ Note to secretary: Please insert all new action items assigned during this teleconference at this location in the minutes. Action items MUST make sense even when they are viewed standalone (that is, not read in the context of the agenda item where they were assigned). This explicitly requires that all referents (e.g., "this", "that") be made clear. Action items such as "Ralph to resolve this problem" are DISALLOWED. It takes a scribe only a few additional minutes to ensure that action items are clear, while it takes the entire WG considerable effort to constantly research the meaning of unclear action items. The subject of the action item should *not* require dereferencing; it is most helpful if agenda numbers and bug numbers are accompanied by their titles. =================================================== Joint XML Query Working Group and XSL Working Group =================================================== J1. Administrative Items J1.1 Selection of secretary(s) John has been asked to take the minutes. Tim has been asked to stand by. NOTE: The chair will confirm the secretary prior to the start of the meeting. Most recent secretaries (least-recent participants first): ---------------------------------------------------------- (This list identifies the most recent three occasions when each participant acted as Secretary for the Task Force. The person whose name is at the top of the list should plan to take the minutes at the meeting identified by this agenda; if that person is unavailable, then the job will fall to the next person on the list, etc. John Snelson - 2015-07-16, 2015-06-02, 2015-02-11 Norm Walsh - 2015-09-22, 2015-05-05, 2015-01-27 Jonathan Robie - 2015-10-29, 2015-05-12, 2015-01-13 Liam Quin - 2015-10-06, 2015-06-16, 2015-03-10 Adam Retter - 2015-10-20, 2015-04-21, 2015-01-20 O'Neil Delpratt - 2015-10-27, 2015-06-23, 2015-03-17 Michael Sprbrg-McQn - 2015-10-03, 2015-06-09, 2015-03-03 Mike Kay - 2015-11-10, 2015-07-15, 2015-04-14 Michael Dyck - 2015-11-17, 2015-09-01, 2015-03-31 Josh Spiegel - 2015-12-01, 2015-09-08, 2015-03-24 Tim Mills - 2015-12-08, 2015-09-15, 2015-04-21 J1.2 Call the Roll -- NOT DONE DURING TELECONFERENCE Note to secretary: During the meeting, take a note of the Webex participants, then list in the minutes those present and those who sent regrets. All others will be presumed to have been absent without regrets. XML Query WG membership list: http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=18797&order=org XSL WG membership list: http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=19552&order=org Regrets: J1.3 Approval of agenda J1.3.1 Additions, deletions, or corrections? J1.4 Review of recent minutes and administrative items J1.4.1 Minutes of meeting #626 (Tim) https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2015Dec/0011.html J1.5 Review of action items NOTE: Please be prepared to respond quickly on your action items! J1.5.1 Outstanding action items ACTION A-579-18: Jonathan to write change proposal to support update of maps and arrays. (See agenda item Q2.1.1) Status: Pending decision on future of XQUF31 ACTION A-585-04: Jonathan to write a concrete proposal for XQuery Update 3.1 that makes preservation of node identity implementation defined at the persistence layer. See https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2014Nov/0012.html Status: Pending decision on future of XQUF31 ACTION A-622-02: Josh Spiegel to propose changes to XQueryX to support new grammar for empty expressions in braces and return to group with a proposal. Status: Pending; ETA 2015-12-15 ACTION A-623-01 Andy to do what's needed to republish the XQuery CR. Status: Pending; ETA not specified. ACTION A-624-05 on Andy to request publication of Serialization 3.1 as revised CR. Status: Pending; ETA not specified. ACTION A-624-06 on Andy to request publication of XPath 3.1 as revised CR. Status: Pending; ETA not specified. ACTION A-625-06 on O’Neil to fix bug 29258 by splitting the tests into multiple versions. Status: Pending; ETA 2015-12-15 ACTION A-625-08 on Jonathan to propose a solution for bug 29246. Status: Pending; ETA 2015-12-15 ACTION A-626-01: Mike to fix F&O example to use correct XPath. Bug 29310 - [FO31] Invalid and ambiguous XPath expression in normative part of section 5.4.3 fn:substring. https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29310 Status: Pending; ETA not specified. ACTION A-626-02: JRobie to make a proposal by defining 1. external functions, 2. host language functions. Bug 29277 - [XP31] Evaluating function calls does not mention evaluation of dynamic or static function calls that have no FunctionBody https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29277 Status: Pending; ETA not specified. ACTION A-626-03: MKay to fix bug 27908 by modifying the test case to use an invalid URI. Bug 27908 - K2-SeqDocFunc-12 https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=27908 Status: Pending; ETA not specified. ACTION A-626-04: JRobie to add 'switch' to the list of expressions in section 2.3.4 Errors and Optimization which must not raise a dynamic error in respect of subexpressions occurring in a branch that is not selected, and must not return the value delivered by a branch unless that branch is selected. ALSO add a note to clarify that in "if (condition) then 'z' else error()" z cannot be returned without evaluating the condition. Bug 29320 - [XQ31] Switch expressions should have same error semantics as typeswitch. https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29320 Status: Pending; ETA not specified. J1.5.2 Completed action items ACTION A-624-03 on O'Neil to fix test suite re bug 29249 (Serialization-text-11). Status: Closed; See https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsl-query/2015Dec/0010.html ACTION A-624-04 on JRobie to evaluate comment 12 of Bug 29277 ([XP31] Evaluating function calls does not mention evaluation of dynamic or static function calls that have no FunctionBody) Status: Closed; Discussed by WG and superceded by A-626-02 ACTION A-625-01 on Andy to discuss the future of update 3.1 with Liam. Status: Closed; Decided to remove update 3.1 and full text 3.1 from agenda due to lack of interest and resources. Will reinstate at a later date if there is sufficient interest, i.e. at least two participants to develop the specs and create implementations. J1.6 Update on related activities J1.6.1 Update on XSLT WG activities (Sharon, MikeK) J1.6.2 Update on EXPath/EXQuery CG activities (Mike) J1.7 Future Meetings J1.7.1 QT Meeting Schedule [V43] Joint XML Query/XSL WG meeting schedule https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xsl-query/2015Jul/0038.html J1.7.2 Future F2F Meetings J1.7.2.1 Other future F2F meetings None scheduled. J2. Documents For Review (none) J3. Maintenance Issues J3.0 The XML Query WG and XSLT WG do not intend to maintains specs earlier than the 3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches Recommendation, maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated. This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other problems reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) suite of specifications. J3.0.1 Concerns raised by the XSLT working group in regards to potential completion delays of XSLT 3.0 if XPath 3.0 is made obsoleted by 3.1 Status: Pending the outcome of Abel's review of 3.0 bugs/errata. Any change to the status of the 3.0 specs requires explicit XSL WG consultation. J3.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of joint XML Query WG and XSLT WG documents J3.1.1 Bugzilla Bug 24568, Is the type system really a lattice? Or just a partially ordered set? http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24568 Status: Fixed in Data Model 3.1; not expected to be addressed in Data Model 3.0 J3.1.2 Bugzilla Bug 25231, [F+O 3.0 ONLY], ISO 8601, and XSD 1.1 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25231 Status: Fixed in F&O 3.1; not expected to be addressed in F&O 3.0 J3.1.3 Bugzilla Bug 26788, [XPath30] XQuery-only errors in XPath 3.0 specification, like XQST0134" https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26788 Status: Fixed in XPath 3.1; not expected to be addressed in XPath 3.0 J4. Active Specification Development ** Note: Full Text 3.1 has been removed from the WG agenda. If, in the future, there is sufficient interest (i.e. at least two independent participants to develop the spec and implementations), then this can be brought back on the agenda. J4.1 Data Model 3.1 (Norm) J4.1.0 Internal working draft http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/html/Overview-diff.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-datamodel-31/src/changes.txt (none) J4.2 Functions and Operators 3.1 (Mike Kay) J4.2.0 Internal working draft http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/html/Overview-diff.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xpath-functions-31/src/changes.txt J4.2.1 Bug 29146 - [FO31] fn:transform options update https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29146 Status: Pending outcome of XSL WG's discussion on this. J4.3 Serialization 3.1 (Michael Sperberg-McQueen, Andy) J4.3.0 Internal working draft http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/html/Overview-diff.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xslt-xquery-serialization-31/src/changes.txt (none) J4.4 XPath 3.1 (Jonathan) J4.4.0 Internal working draft http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xpath-31-diff.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt J4.4.1 Bug 29277 - [XP31] Evaluating function calls does not mention evaluation of dynamic or static function calls that have no FunctionBody Status: Pending completion of A-626-02 J4.5 Grammar Test Applets (Michael Dyck) J4.5.1 Bugzilla Bug 13796, [Applet30] \u escaped characters in grammar applets http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13796 Status: Pending J4.6 QT3 test suite (O'Neil) J4.6.1 Status report on test suite, harness, tools J4.6.2 Status of 3.1 tests Status: Coverage is almost complete. J4.6.3 Publication of test suite. Status: Ready to discuss J5. Progression of Work J5.1 XSLT 3.0, XQuery 3.1, XQueryX 3.1, XPath 3.1, XDM 3.1, F&O 3.1, Serialization 3.1 J5.1.1 Current status * In Candidate Recommendation; awaiting implementation reports J5.1.2 Dependencies inhibiting progression * Completion of test suite minimum-required-to-declare-victory * Sufficient implementation experience and reports thereof * Formal response to all comments, responses accepted by commenters * PR Transition Request and authorization, PR pub request * REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request J5.2 Update 3.0 J5.2.1 Current Status * In Last Call Working Draft J5.2.2 Require owner of XQUF 3.0 Test Suite J5.2.3 Dependencies inhibiting progression * CR Transition Request and authorization, CR pub request * Completion of test suite minimum-required-to-declare-victory * Sufficient implementation experience and reports thereof * Formal response to all comments, responses accepted by commenters * PR Transition Request and authorization, PR pub request * REC Transition Request and authorization, REC pub request J6. Any other business J6.1 Consideration of future work J6.1.1 QT 3.2 The WGs decided that we will finish the 3.1 documents presently under way, but undertake no new work. Maintenance work should be planned upon for a period of time after finishing the specifications. J6.1.2 FT 3.1 Currently inadequate interest and resources J6.1.3 Update 3.1 Currently inadequate interest and resources J7. Adjourn ======================= XML Query Working Group ======================= Q1. The XML Query WG does not intend to maintains specs earlier than the 3.0 suite of documents; when the 3.1 suite reaches Recommendation, maintenance of the 3.0 documents will be terminated. Q1.0 This agenda item is reserved for reporting errors and other problems reported against the 3.0 (later, 3.1) XML Query WG suite of specifications. Status: Pending completion of ACTION A-592-02. Q1.1 Bugzilla Bugs filed against the 3.0 suite of XML Query WG documents (none) Q2. Active Specification Development Q2.1 XQuery Update Facility 3.0 (John) Q2.1.0 Internal working draft http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/html/Overview-diff.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-update-30/src/changes.txt * The WG needs to obtain implementation experience with this document. Q2.2 XQuery Update Facility 3.0 Requirements and Use Cases (Andy) See http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/requirements/xquery-update-30/html/Overview.html * The WGs need to be certain that this document is completed (red/yellow/green bullets on requirements, all the use cases intended to be published) and a decision made to advance it to WG Note. Q2.3 XQuery 3.1 (Jonathan) Q2.3.0 Internal working draft http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/html/xquery-31-diff.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xquery-31/src/changes.txt Q2.3.1 Bug 29246 - [XQ31] context item declarations https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29246 Status: Pending completion of A-625-08 Q2.4 XQueryX 3.1 (Josh) Q2.4.0 Internal working draft http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/html/Overview-diff.html http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/qtspecs/specifications/xqueryx-31/src/changes.txt (none) Q3. Test Suite Development Q3.1 Update Facility 3.0 Test Suite (????) * Need test suite developer/manager * Need tests Q4. Any other business Q5. Adjourn
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