- From: <paul.downey@bt.com>
- Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 02:10:57 -0000
- To: <public-xsd-databinding@w3.org>
minutes from today's call are now available:
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/6/11/21-databinding-minutes.html
and copied below for tracker's searching
   W3C 
                                   - DRAFT -
                         Databinding WG Teleconference
21 Nov 2006
   Agenda
   See also: IRC log
Attendees
   Present
          Vladislav Bezrukov (SAP AG)
          George Cowe (Origo Services Limited)
          Paul Downey (BT)
          Yves Lafon (W3C)
   Regrets
   Chair
          pauld
   Scribe
          pauld
Contents
     * Topics
         1. Administrivia
         2. Status of our Last Call WD
         3. Publication of First Public WD of Advanced
         4. Test Suite and Detection
         5. ISSUE-65: Why would a pattern NOT be included in our Advanced
            document?
     * Summary of Action Items
     _________________________________________________________________
   <trackbot> Date: 21 November 2006
   <scribe> Scribe: pauld
Administrivia
   no objections to approving minutes from the 14th
Status of our Last Call WD
   pauld: please review, I think editing is mostly complete
   george: is there anything missing?
   yves: moritorium starts tomorrow night
   ... can publish if we have it in time
   http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/basic/basic.html
   pauld: quite a few editorial changes, highlight patterns in orange,
   more narative text and hightlight elements and attributes matched in
   the examples
   ... may have overstepped the mark with ISSUE-96 and the
   ElementElementSequence pattern:
   http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/patterns/6/09/SequenceSequenceEl
   ement/
   george: we can remove it if there is a problem with tools
   pauld: or we could remove it now, we don't have good coverage only
   what we're interested in as a small WG
   george: wasn't my intention for ISSUE-96, but it's OK to include it
   under that issue
   pauld: let's go with this pattern included
   ... please read the spec and flag editorial nits asap
   vlad: what happens if we have more patterns
   pauld: if you want them as basic submit them as LC comments
   vlad: advanced should be OK
   pauld: end of LC on the 5th?
   yves: 12th seems better
   pauld: OK 12th it is
   <vladB> +1 to Yves
   pauld: review, thinking of asking XMLSchema WG
   yves: soapbuilders
   pauld: we need the test suite page for them
   yves: for basic they're important, it's a heads-up
   pauld: WS-I Basic Profile, and WSDL WG
   ... CG call later, can fix it there
Publication of First Public WD of Advanced
   pauld: OK to publish our first public WD of advanced?
   ... short link for advanced spec?
   we have http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlschema-patterns/
   http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlschema-patterns-advanced/
   pauld: let's publish to coincide with our LCWD of Basic.
Test Suite and Detection
   george: we're ok if it doesn't follow import and include
   pauld: might be interesting to have the detector highlight imports and
   includes as links
   george: how long before we have a validation service?
   yves: we have a mechnism to run servlets
   pauld: we need to make sure it doesn't blow up on unknowns
   <scribe> ACTION: gcowe to develop W3C detection service with help from
   Yves [recorded in
   http://www.w3.org/2006/11/21-databinding-minutes.html#action01]
   <trackbot> Created ACTION-90 - Develop W3C detection service with help
   from Yves [on George Cowe - due 2006-11-28].
   pauld: been collecting schemas from the wild , will publish a report
   asap
   ... test suite, we have Python ZSI on the matrix
   yves: i've been working on the test client, going to have to go
   through an XSLT path, still in progress
   pauld: do you need more metadata in the examples.xml?
   yves: will need help for float
   ... probably just do simple XML equality, then add manual tests as
   needed
   pauld: possible to schema validate the responses?
   ... vlad, can you consider adding your own implementation to our
   testsuite
ISSUE-65: Why would a pattern NOT be included in our Advanced document?
   pauld: we could go for 100% coverage of XML Schema 1.0, but we'll be
   here a long time
   ... maybe my farming of schemas to drive patterns
   george: sounds like a sensible approach, look for how people are
   writing schemas
   pauld: how will we know when we're done?
   yves: when as a WG we agre we're done
   pauld: maybe a time driven process?
   ... or hopefully we'll get lots from LC comments
   ... how can we get people to submit their schemas to look for patterns
   ... worries about missing schemas which are not public, or freely
   available (hidden inside Zip or msi files behind a ULA)
   george: maybe we should ask for contributions
   pauld: how do we find vertical organisations?
   george: that's the problem
   yves: problem is people have schemas which don't work with tools?
   pauld: yes, and we can be unaware of them
   ... we need to call for implementations *and* schemas to drive
   Advanced
   vlad: can try to contribute schemas generated by our implementation
   pauld: do SAP have other Schemas and WSDLs we can add to our list
   <vladB> i have to find out
   pauld: schema filetype:xsd site:w3.org in google is great!
   ... so it sounds like our bar is a pattern has to be demonstated to be
   in use in the wild
Summary of Action Items
   [NEW] ACTION: gcowe to develop W3C detection service with help from
   Yves [recorded in
   http://www.w3.org/2006/11/21-databinding-minutes.html#action01]
   [End of minutes]
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