- From: <paul.downey@bt.com>
- Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 16:52:51 +0100
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[1]W3C
- DRAFT -
Databinding WG Teleconference
27 Jun 2006
[2]Agenda
See also: [3]IRC log
Attendees
Present
Jon Calladine, (BT)
George Cowe (Origo Services)
Paul Downey (Chair, BT)
Yves Lafon (W3C)
Regrets
Chair
pauld
Scribe
pauld
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Administrivia
2. [6]ISSUE-12: identifying a conformant schema
3. [7]ISSUE-2: WSDL and the Test Suite (Auto-generation of )
4. [8]ISSUE-4: Collection of Databinding Implementations
5. [9]ISSUE-34: multiple schemas for a single namespace
6. [10]ISSUE-9: Support for xs:union
* [11]Summary of Action Items
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Administrivia
pauld: next week is July 4th, does anyone object to meeting?
omnes: huh?
pauld: OK, we meet next week as usual :-)
pauld:if there's interest we could book a table at The Rex cinema
monday of our F2F:
[12]http://uk.imdb.com/title/tt0119574/plotsummary
planning to publish Last Call Working Draft around next F2F
would like to not formally meet during August
planning to work towards an interop event for advanced patterns,
possibly in Boston during December close to XML 2006
pauld: presented to WS-I, had some push back, which I blogged:
[13]http://blog.whatfettle.com/archives/000397.html
discussion around using Relax mapping as a profile
jonc: little experience or interest in the WG around this approach
pauld: suggest we ensure Trang generated patterns are covered in our
Advanced document
ISSUE-12: identifying a conformant schema
pauld: done nothing on this since we last spoke
... suggest task will become easier once we have test cases published
ISSUE-2: WSDL and the Test Suite (Auto-generation of )
pauld: took exploding sed scripts from Yves and turned them round into
one stylesheet per target: instance, soap11, soap12, wsdl, schemas
... being driven by a single patterns.xml
yves: suggest using xinclude from xmlspec to include patterns and
examples
pauld: separated out examples from patterns, associated by links
ISSUE-4: Collection of Databinding Implementations
pauld: been testing with toolkits, building a list of what we need to
know to test a toolkit
.. been working with .NET, Mono, Axis 1.x and SOAP4r toolkits
pauld:
wondered about recording this on a wiki so others can easily
contribute:
[14]http://esw.w3.org/topic/WebServicesTools
yves:
not a big fan of wikis, maybe an issue with access control over pages
containing licesnes etc
<scribe> ACTION: ylafon to investigate use of wiki [recorded in
[15]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/27-databinding-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-50 - Investigate use of wiki [on Yves Lafon
- due 2006-07-04].
pauld: alternative is to get people to send mail and just build an
index from that
ISSUE-34: multiple schemas for a single namespace
still an open issue in BP, not over yet, WG will solict schema WG's
advice
ISSUE-9: Support for xs:union
jonc: published a pattern, the Pete Hendry pointed an obvious issue
with the order of the types
... we need to either have more examples, or have separate patterns
for specific combinations
... xsi:type may also play a role here
... which way do we go?
... with instance documents, should we use xsi:type to test failure
conditions
pauld: is the order of the filters a design consideration?
... we can also have more than two simple types, combinations
explosive
jonc: design consideration could spell out what makes sense, could
duplicate xml schema spec
... been using tools to play with combinations, but how exhaustive
should I be?
... maybe we should do some inductive reasoning, just try 2, and 4 or
5
pauld: so I'm wondering what we expect tools to do with union "xs:date
xs:string"
jonc: should we also include anti-pattern instance documents?
pauld: see no problem in having 'bad' instance documents
... just annotate bad documents is important
discussion of 47! combinations, may be reduced by non-sensible
combinations
ADJOURNED!
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: ylafon to investigate use of wiki [recorded in
[16]http://www.w3.org/2006/06/27-databinding-minutes.html#action01]
[End of minutes]
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References
1. http://www.w3.org/
2. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsd-databinding/2006Jun/0022.html
3. http://www.w3.org/2006/06/27-databinding-irc
4. http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/6/6/27-databinding-minutes.html#agenda
5. http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/6/6/27-databinding-minutes.html#item01
6. http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/6/6/27-databinding-minutes.html#item02
7. http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/6/6/27-databinding-minutes.html#item03
8. http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/6/6/27-databinding-minutes.html#item04
9. http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/6/6/27-databinding-minutes.html#item05
10. http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/6/6/27-databinding-minutes.html#item06
11. http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/6/6/27-databinding-minutes.html#ActionSummary
12. http://uk.imdb.com/title/tt0119574/plotsummary
13. http://blog.whatfettle.com/archives/000397.html
14. http://esw.w3.org/topic/WebServicesTools
15. http://www.w3.org/2006/06/27-databinding-minutes.html#action01
16. http://www.w3.org/2006/06/27-databinding-minutes.html#action01
17. http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm
18. http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/
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