Meeting record: xmlsec weekly 2008-01-08

Minutes from our meeting on 2008-01-08 were approved and are
available online here:

   http://www.w3.org/2008/01/08-xmlsec-minutes.html

A text version is included below the .signature.

-- 
Thomas Roessler, W3C  <tlr@w3.org>




   [1]W3C

      XML Security Specifications Maintenance Working Group Teleconference
                                   8 Jan 2008

   [2]Agenda

   See also: [3]IRC log

Attendees

   Present
          Thomas, jwray, pdatta, sean, Shivaram, brich, rdmiller,
          Frederick_Hirsch, PHB, Ed_Simon, jcc, klanz2

   Regrets
          Hal Lockhart

   Chair
          Frederick_Hirsch

   Scribe
          BruceRich

Contents

     * [4]Topics
         1. [5]Admin
         2. [6]C14N11 draft
         3. [7]Interop and testcases
         4. [8]Namespace document
         5. [9]Chartering
         6. [10]Best practices
         7. [11]Action review
         8. [12]AOB - EXI
     * [13]Summary of Action Items
     __________________________________________________________________

   <trackbot-ng> Date: 08 January 2008

   <tlr> ScribeNick: brich

   <tlr> Scribe: BruceRich

   <FrederickHirsch> Agenda:
   [14]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2008Jan/0
   011.html

Admin

   <tlr> Minutes from 11th Dec approved.

   <tlr> [15]http://www.w3.org/2007/12/18-xmlsec-minutes-public.html

   <tlr> [16]http://www.w3.org/2007/12/18-xmlsec-minutes.html

   RESOLUTION: Minutes from 18th Dec approved

   Frederick Should we go to biweekly meetings or stay with weekly and
   shorten length?

   <tlr> either way works for me

   <shivaram> I like the idea of having shorter weekly meetings - it keeps
   the momemtum

   <EdS> +1 to shorter meetings

   RESOLUTION: Keep weekly meetings, but shorten as needed

C14N11 draft

   tlr No further input expected from us, told Core we are fine with
   disposition of comments

Interop and testcases

   Sean incorporated all comments except "unreadable output", updated spec
   refs

   tlr put a hack in place to deal with "unreadable output" issue, will
   document convention followed, others are free to improve it

   <FrederickHirsch>
   [17]http://www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/interop/xmldsig/c14n11/report.html

   tlr updated the test report, would like comments before our meeting
   next week

   frederick how close are we to being done?

   tlr depends on amount and volume of feedback

   <FrederickHirsch>
   [18]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2008Jan/0
   010.html

   frederick proposed a fix to the test document for references to
   Appendix A

   RESOLUTION: Proposed fix to section 3.2.5 is accepted

   <Zakim> tlr, you wanted to update about schedule

   jcc Having hardware/software issues in completing interop test cases
   assigned to him

   <scribe> ACTION: Sean to implement fix to section 3.2.5 in testcase doc
   [recorded in
   [19]http://www.w3.org/2008/01/08-xmlsec-minutes.html#action01]

   <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-128 - Implement fix to section 3.2.5 in
   testcase doc [on Sean Mullan - due 2008-01-15].

   frederick is the testcase doc up to date? are more changes needed?

   sean the c14n11 section is good

   sean the xpointer tests are named incorrectly, inconsistent with
   testcase doc

   <FrederickHirsch> sean - DName tests not implemented, remove from doc

   <scribe> ACTION: sean to rename the xpointer tests as per doc [recorded
   in [20]http://www.w3.org/2008/01/08-xmlsec-minutes.html#action02]

   <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-129 - Rename the xpointer tests as per doc
   [on Sean Mullan - due 2008-01-15].

   tlr need to record which tests depend on an optional feature

   <tlr> tlr: I think we should record that the test depends on optional
   feature, we don't think it's critical path for PER implementation
   report

   <FrederickHirsch> tlr: including optional use of xslt

   <FrederickHirsch> sean: removing DName tests makes sense, redundant,
   not implemented

   <FrederickHirsch> jcc: agree

   RESOLUTION: Remove unused DName cases from the doc

   jcc concerned about test case numbers moving around

   <FrederickHirsch> leave the file names alone, do not renumber

   <tlr> tlr: don't change filenames, just let the software do its thing
   on section numbers

   <FrederickHirsch> jcc: not change name of test cases

   <FrederickHirsch> +1

   <tlr> ... probably not worth the effort to have consecutively numbered
   test cases ...

   <scribe> ACTION: sean to remove unused DName cases from the doc
   [recorded in
   [21]http://www.w3.org/2008/01/08-xmlsec-minutes.html#action03]

   <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-130 - Remove unused DName cases from the
   doc [on Sean Mullan - due 2008-01-15].

   <tlr> FYI, the implementation report is member-confidential unless
   changed

   tlr still needs to do final polishing of doc, update acknowledgement
   section, identify those sections for which testing was a good thing to
   do, say what the testcases do

   <FrederickHirsch> another reason not to change test names is to allow
   referencing earlier discussion re those test cases

   <FrederickHirsch>
   [22]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2008Jan/0
   007.html

Namespace document

   RESOLUTION: Accept change to namespace document

Chartering

   <FrederickHirsch>
   [23]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2007Dec/0
   031.htm

   <tlr>
   [24]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2007Dec/0
   031.html

   <FrederickHirsch>
   [25]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2007Dec/0
   031.html

   Frederick If we make changes to signature, may have to open encryption,
   is this a problem?

   <pdatta> This is good

   <tlr> I just made the change in the wiki

   Frederick ...Put this in the latest update to the charter?

   tlr suggest that a note be sent to the workshop participants requesting
   review/input on charter

   Ed sees absence of ECC in the charter as a possible void

   <FrederickHirsch> Ed: ECC could be topic for XML Encryption

   <FrederickHirsch> tlr: charter already broad, degree of support?

   <FrederickHirsch> Rob: MITRE interested in ECC for XML Enc

   <shivaram> just a note, ECC must be present as the federal gov suite-B
   initiative requires it

   <tlr> Anyone can look at that draft, and anyone can send comments to
   public-xmlsec-discuss

   frederick, wiki is public so interested (nonW3C) parties can review

   <FrederickHirsch> [26]http://www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/wiki/charter

   <FrederickHirsch> ACTION: frederick update xmlsec public web page with
   pointer to wiki draft charter [recorded in
   [27]http://www.w3.org/2008/01/08-xmlsec-minutes.html#action04]

   <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-131 - Update xmlsec public web page with
   pointer to wiki draft charter [on Frederick Hirsch - due 2008-01-15].

   <tlr> ACTION: thomas to send message to public-xmlsec-discuss [recorded
   in [28]http://www.w3.org/2008/01/08-xmlsec-minutes.html#action05]

   <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-132 - Send message to
   public-xmlsec-discuss [on Thomas Roessler - due 2008-01-15].

   <FrederickHirsch> ACTION: frederick to respond to magnus re DerivedKey
   [recorded in
   [29]http://www.w3.org/2008/01/08-xmlsec-minutes.html#action06]

   <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-133 - Respond to magnus re DerivedKey [on
   Frederick Hirsch - due 2008-01-15].

Best practices

   skipping for now, given Hal's absence

Action review

   ACTION-74 Open

   ACTION-112 Open

   <tlr> ACTION-74 reassigned to fjh

   ACTION-115 Open pending email from jcc

   ACTION-123 Closed

   <FrederickHirsch> no issues regarding naming changes or test case
   updates

   ACTION-124 Closed

   <FrederickHirsch> see
   [30]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-xmlsec-commits/0009.html

   ACTION-125 Closed

AOB - EXI

   jcc show 2 ways to encode an xml doc, one with schema and one without

   jcc when don't have a schema, may be issues with xpath

   frederick this is hard to understand without seeing the doc or examples

   jcc need another couple of weeks to pursue

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: frederick to respond to magnus re DerivedKey [recorded in
   [31]http://www.w3.org/2008/01/08-xmlsec-minutes.html#action06]
   [NEW] ACTION: frederick update xmlsec public web page with pointer to
   wiki draft charter [recorded in
   [32]http://www.w3.org/2008/01/08-xmlsec-minutes.html#action04]
   [NEW] ACTION: Sean to implement fix to section 3.2.5 in testcase doc
   [recorded in
   [33]http://www.w3.org/2008/01/08-xmlsec-minutes.html#action01]
   [NEW] ACTION: sean to remove unused DName cases from the doc [recorded
   in [34]http://www.w3.org/2008/01/08-xmlsec-minutes.html#action03]
   [NEW] ACTION: sean to rename the xpointer tests as per doc [recorded in
   [35]http://www.w3.org/2008/01/08-xmlsec-minutes.html#action02]
   [NEW] ACTION: thomas to send message to public-xmlsec-discuss [recorded
   in [36]http://www.w3.org/2008/01/08-xmlsec-minutes.html#action05]

   [End of minutes]
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References

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-- 
Thomas Roessler, W3C  <tlr@w3.org>

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