Re: document node attributes

So there could be a media type -

'application/*fooxml'*

that required that for
every URL containing a document of its media type,

http://abc.xyz/foo/bar/123

there MUST be a corresponding document containing its links
at

http://abc.xyz/foo/bar/123/ <http://abc.xyz/foo/bar/123/links>*fooxml*
and, say, state that the links MUST be published using a particular
XML syntax with particular semantics to state which attributes,
say, are for the actual links.

Is that still not enough?

----
Stephen D Green


On 3 July 2013 14:59, Rushforth, Peter <Peter.Rushforth@nrcan-rncan.gc.ca>wrote:

> **
> Hi Stephen,
>
> I think a media type could declare link semantics over anything it wanted.
>
> If application/nxml (say) declared that @href, @src etc meant such and
> such,
> then that's what they'd be.
>
> Similarly, if application/nxml said that the xml: namespace attributes
> were declared by virtual document node properties,
> I think that would be feasible too.  The media type could also declare
> that everything
> else in xml was incorporated.
>
> I think that's the way media types work: they RFC describing them is the
> last word.
>
> But one can't just say (now) that in application/xml @href, @src mean
> anything, because
> there is a large installed base of xml out there in which @href etc are
> used and may not
> mean exactly what we want them to at this point.
>
> Peter
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Stephen D Green [mailto:stephengreenubl@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* July 3, 2013 09:49
> *To:* Rushforth, Peter
> *Cc:* public-xmlhypermedia@w3.org
>
> *Subject:* Re: document node attributes
>
>   [Forgive me if this sounds rather ignorant.]
>
> Would an alternative be to standardize a convention? E.g.
> that for every (RESTful) XML document on the Web at URL
>         http://abc.xyz/foo/bar/123
> there may be a corresponding document containing its links
> at
>         http://abc.xyz/foo/bar/123/links
>
> Then the standard convention might specify a format for the links
> e.g. the Atom Link Model, say.
>
> Or is that too far short of what is needed by way of hypermedia
> for XML?
>
>
>
>
>  ----
> Stephen D Green
>
>
> On 11 June 2013 02:02, Rushforth, Peter <Peter.Rushforth@nrcan-rncan.gc.ca
> > wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> According to the XML data model, is it conceivable that the document node
>> (not the root element)
>> be deemed to carry virtual, hard coded attributes?
>>
>> In other words, could a media type definition say that the document node
>> of this media type has
>> these fixed attribute values?
>>
>> http://www.w3.org/community/xmlhypermedia/wiki/NeoXML
>>
>> Thanks for any feedback,
>> Peter
>>
>
>