XProc Minutes 15 October 2014

See http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2014/10/15-minutes

[1]W3C

                                   - DRAFT -

                            XML Processing Model WG

Meeting 253, 15 Oct 2014

   [2]Agenda

   See also: [3]IRC log

Attendees

   Present
           Jim, Norm, Vojtech, Henry

   Regrets
           Alex, Loren

   Chair
           Norm

   Scribe
           Norm

Contents

     * [4]Topics

         1. [5]Accept this agenda?
         2. [6]Accept minutes from the previous meeting?
         3. [7]Next meeting: 22 Oct 2014
         4. [8]Face-to-face in Edinburgh in ... June?
         5. [9]Review of open action items
         6. [10]The "no parameter ports" proposal
         7. [11]Any other business?

     * [12]Summary of Action Items

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  Accept this agenda?

   -> [13]http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2014/10/15-agenda

   Accepted?

  Accept minutes from the previous meeting?

   -> [14]http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2014/10/08-minutes

   Accepted.

  Next meeting: 22 Oct 2014

   No regrets heard.

   Norm: No telcon on the 29th, we'll have f2f meetings on the 27th/28th at
   TPAC

   Norm: I'll attempt to setup some sort of telepresence on both days at
   11:00a CDT (09:00a PDT, 16:00GMT)

  Face-to-face in Edinburgh in ... June?

   Norm mutters about the value of another f2f.

   Henry and Jim both offer to host.

   Norm: I don't think we have to plan further now, but let's start imagining
   we might meet in Europe in the summer.

  Review of open action items

   Norm: With respect to A-252-01, I've made some progress. Commit msgs now
   appear on the comments list. It appears not to be possible to have issues
   go to the comments list directly.
   ... However, I have procmail.

   <scribe> Continued. Norm will get to it asap.

  The "no parameter ports" proposal

   -> [15]https://github.com/xproc/specification/issues/28

   -> [16]https://ndw.github.io/specification/langspec/no-param-ports/head/

   Norm summarizes the changes from last week.

   Henry: It's all fine. But I'd like to get some more housekeeping out of
   the way.
   ... The description of c:param and c:param-set are in conflict with this
   work.
   ... Similarly, the descriptions of c:param-set and c:param refer to
   "parameter inputs" which no longer exist.
   ... I think we ought to say something about the mapping of command line
   input parameters to a parameter map and a recommended way of doing that.

   Norm: Yes, I think we should say that.

   Vojtech: Isn't this covered by options?

   Norm: Yes, of course, parameters are just options now.

   Vojtech: How you pass the map is implementation defined.

   Henry: We need to call out the fact that implementations may or may not
   support some types from the command line.

   Some discussion of how processors might do this.

   <jfuller> read it, Henry already covered off .. +1 for accepting pursuant
   to added story on binding

   Vojtech: There's no story about magic binding yet, right?

   Norm: Right.

   Vojtech: What about backwards compatibility or upgrading.

   Norm: We have an issue for that, suggest we revisit when we've made more
   progress on V2.

   Norm proposes to adopt the no-param-ports draft as the status quo.

   Any objections?

   None heard. So resolved.

   <jfuller> +1 for adoption with the mentioned proviso

  Any other business?

   <jfuller> could you add for next week review,
   [17]https://github.com/xproc/specification/issues/38 as I published (and
   will be republishing well before our next meeting)

   Yes, apologies, jfuller. An oversight on my part.

   Adjourned.

Summary of Action Items

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References

   1. http://www.w3.org/
   2. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2014/10/15-agenda
   3. http://www.w3.org/2014/10/15-xproc-irc
   4. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2014/10/15-minutes#agenda
   5. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2014/10/15-minutes#item01
   6. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2014/10/15-minutes#item02
   7. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2014/10/15-minutes#item03
   8. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2014/10/15-minutes#item04
   9. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2014/10/15-minutes#item05
  10. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2014/10/15-minutes#item06
  11. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2014/10/15-minutes#item07
  12. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2014/10/15-minutes#ActionSummary
  13. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2014/10/15-agenda
  14. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2014/10/08-minutes
  15. https://github.com/xproc/specification/issues/28
  16. https://ndw.github.io/specification/langspec/no-param-ports/head/
  17. https://github.com/xproc/specification/issues/38
  18. http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm
  19. http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/