XProc Minutes 11 Dec 2013

See http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2013/12/11-minutes

[1]W3C

                                   - DRAFT -

                            XML Processing Model WG

Meeting 240, 11 Dec 2013

   [2]Agenda

   See also: [3]IRC log

Attendees

   Present
           Norm, Jim, Mohamed, Vojtech, Alex, Henry

   Regrets

   Chair
           Norm

   Scribe
           Norm

Contents

     * [4]Topics

         1. [5]Accept this agenda?
         2. [6]Accept minutes from the previous meeting?
         3. [7]Next meeting: 8 Jan 2014. Happy New Year!
         4. [8]Review of open action items
         5. [9]Progress on XML processor profiles
         6. [10]Progress on rechartering
         7. [11]Progress on zip/unzip?
         8. [12]Any other business?
         9. [13]Proposed face-to-face meeting in Edinburgh after XML Prague

     * [14]Summary of Action Items

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  Accept this agenda?

   -> [15]http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2013/12/11-agenda

   Accepted.

  Accept minutes from the previous meeting?

   -> [16]http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2013/11/13-minutes

   Accepted.

  Next meeting: 8 Jan 2014. Happy New Year!

   Jim gives regrets for 8 Jan.

  Review of open action items

   Norm: I closed a couple

   <jf_2013> updated xml processing home page with links to latest minutes

   <jf_2013> [17]http://www.w3.org/XML/Processing/

   A-235-02 is completed.

   Thanks, Jim

  Progress on XML processor profiles

   Norm: We're chipping away on actions and waiting to hear back from
   Michael.

   Henry: I think that' s right.

   Jim: I added a table to the invariants section.

   <jf_2013> [18]http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/docs/xml-proc-profiles.html

  Progress on rechartering

   Norm: I was hoping to hear from Liam, but I haven't.

   Mohamed: The "state machine" XML just went into Last Call. There's
   something similar to general pipelines in there; do we have to liase with
   them?

   <MoZ> [19]http://www.w3.org/TR/scxml/

   Norm: We weren't asked to review it, but if it's got pipeline stuff in it
   then we probably should.

   <jf_2013> I've read it before

   Mohamed: I thought I saw a paper about XProc and scxml.

   Jim: I think there's a paper. I read scxml a while ago; it is a kind of
   pipeline.
   ... It's a different approach. We're flow-based. Managing state is a
   fundamentally different approach.

   Henry: It's not the state machine that's the issue, it's the executable
   content that's the issue.

   Mohamed: This document looks to have been rewritten since the previous
   draft.
   ... Just to put into the discussion that there is some thought around XML
   and synchronization and processing.

   <scribe> ACTION: Jim to review scxml and provide a summary of the
   similarities and differences. [recorded in
   [20]http://www.w3.org/2013/12/11-xproc-minutes.html#action01]

   Henry: I think the fundamental question is, does XML flow through these
   control structures?

  Progress on zip/unzip?

   Norm: Have you made any progress, Jim?

   Jim: I've made some progress, but it's not ready to publish yet.

  Any other business?

  Proposed face-to-face meeting in Edinburgh after XML Prague

   <jf_2013> I could come

   Norm: How many people would attend?

   <MoZ> I won't

   Norm: I hear yeas from Henry, Jim, Norm, Alex, and possibly Vojtech

   Proposal: we shall meet in Edinburgh face-to-face possibly contingent on
   the rechartering

   Accepted.

   Henry: When would we meet?

   Norm: I propose Feb 18, 19 and possibly 20.

   Henry: I'll book a room!

   Norm: Thank you Henry
   ... Any other any other business?

   Mohamed: Michael Kay started discussion about chained pipelines in XSLT
   3.0. I don't know how this relates to XProc.

   Norm: Yes, I plan to respond.
   ... Adjourned. Happy holidays and Merry New Year to you all!

   <jf_2013> merry xmas/ happy new year

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: Jim to review scxml and provide a summary of the
   similarities and differences. [recorded in
   [21]http://www.w3.org/2013/12/11-xproc-minutes.html#action01]

   [End of minutes]

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References

   1. http://www.w3.org/
   2. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2013/12/11-agenda
   3. http://www.w3.org/2013/12/11-xproc-irc
   4. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2013/12/11-minutes#agenda
   5. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2013/12/11-minutes#item01
   6. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2013/12/11-minutes#item02
   7. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2013/12/11-minutes#item03
   8. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2013/12/11-minutes#item04
   9. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2013/12/11-minutes#item05
  10. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2013/12/11-minutes#item06
  11. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2013/12/11-minutes#item07
  12. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2013/12/11-minutes#item08
  13. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2013/12/11-minutes#item09
  14. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2013/12/11-minutes#ActionSummary
  15. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2013/12/11-agenda
  16. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2013/11/13-minutes
  17. http://www.w3.org/XML/Processing/
  18. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/docs/xml-proc-profiles.html
  19. http://www.w3.org/TR/scxml/
  20. http://www.w3.org/2013/12/11-xproc-minutes.html#action01
  21. http://www.w3.org/2013/12/11-xproc-minutes.html#action01
  22. http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm
  23. http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/