XProc Minutes 8 July 2010

 See http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2010/07/08-minutes

[1]W3C

                                   - DRAFT -

                            XML Processing Model WG

Meeting 177, 08 Jul 2010

   [2]Agenda

   See also: [3]IRC log

Attendees

   Present
           Henry, Alex, Carine, Norm

   Regrets
           Paul, Mohamed

   Chair
           Norm

   Scribe
           Norm

Contents

     * [4]Topics

         1. [5]Accept this agenda?
         2. [6]Accept minutes from the previous meeting?
         3. [7]Next meeting: telcon, 15 July 2010?
         4. [8]Comments on WD
         5. [9]Review latest editor's draft
         6. [10]Possible XProc 1.1 feature
         7. [11]Any other business?

     * [12]Summary of Action Items

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  Accept this agenda?

   -> [13]http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2010/07/08-agenda

   Henry: I'd like to talk about an addition to XProc for 1.1.

   Norm: Ok.

  Accept minutes from the previous meeting?

   -> [14]http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2010/07/01-minutes

   Accepted.

  Next meeting: telcon, 15 July 2010?

   Henry gives regrets for 15 July through 5 August.

  Comments on WD

   Norm: I don't think there have been any new comments and I failed to
   follow up with Bjoern, so I don't think there's anything here this week.
   ... Henry, how goes the draft wrt the whitespace issue (invariants)

   Henry: No progress so far.

  Review latest editor's draft

   Carine: I'm not comfortable with four profiles. There seems to be little
   justification for that level of granularity.
   ... It ends up being a do-it-yourself profile with whatever bits you want.
   I understand that some of the concern came from the browsers not doing
   much.
   ... It's probably ok to have a very small browser profile, do we need
   three more?
   ... It seems a bit useless to have that many.

   Henry: I think that's a good point. I guess I remain moderately hopeful
   that looking at the different invariants will give us a reason for making
   these distinctions.

   Norm: I guess we need three and if we have only three then there will be
   one obviously missing.

   Henry: We went ahead and added them when people suggested them and before
   we publish, or in the next draft, we might call out explicitly the
   question of whether we need them all and see what people say.

   Norm: Sounds good to me.
   ... But I'm waffling about it.

   <scribe> ACTION: Henry to add a note to the draft raising the question of
   whether we really need *four* profiles. [recorded in
   [15]http://www.w3.org/2010/07/08-xproc-minutes.html#action01]

   Carine: That's fine by me. It just looks like the 'pizza menu problem' in
   the US. There are all those names.
   ... I think some note that suggested how each profile might be used would
   be helpful.

   Norm: That sounds like a good idea to me, we should have suggested uses
   for the profiles before we're done.

  Possible XProc 1.1 feature

   Henry: I keep ending up writing vastly more structure than I need to in
   order to build a fragment with a bit of content from the context.
   ... It would be useful to have a single template rule.
   ... Maybe it would be sufficient in XProc to allow a version of inline in
   which XSLT curly brace rules apply. Or more likely XQuery curly brace
   rules apply.

   Norm: Yes, I've been there. Figuring out how to get that into XProc is
   what's been a stumbling block for me.

  Any other business?

   None heard.

   Adjourned.

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: Henry to add a note to the draft raising the question of
   whether we really need *four* profiles. [recorded in
   [16]http://www.w3.org/2010/07/08-xproc-minutes.html#action01]

   [End of minutes]

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References

   1. http://www.w3.org/
   2. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2010/07/08-agenda
   3. http://www.w3.org/2010/07/08-xproc-irc
   4. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2010/07/08-minutes#agenda
   5. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2010/07/08-minutes#item01
   6. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2010/07/08-minutes#item02
   7. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2010/07/08-minutes#item03
   8. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2010/07/08-minutes#item04
   9. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2010/07/08-minutes#item05
  10. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2010/07/08-minutes#item06
  11. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2010/07/08-minutes#item07
  12. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2010/07/08-minutes#ActionSummary
  13. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2010/07/08-agenda
  14. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2010/07/01-minutes
  15. http://www.w3.org/2010/07/08-xproc-minutes.html#action01
  16. http://www.w3.org/2010/07/08-xproc-minutes.html#action01
  17. http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm
  18. http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/