- From: Norman Walsh <ndw@nwalsh.com>
- Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:02:00 -0400
- To: public-xml-processing-model-wg@w3.org
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See http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/10/01-minutes [1]W3C - DRAFT - XML Processing Model WG Meeting 154, 01 Oct 2009 [2]Agenda See also: [3]IRC log Attendees Present Norm, Paul, Henry, Mohamed Regrets Vojtech, Alex Chair Norm Scribe Norm Contents * [4]Topics 1. [5]Accept this agenda? 2. [6]Accept minutes from the previous meeting? 3. [7]Next meeting: telcon 8 Oct 2009 4. [8]Plans for interim CR draft 5. [9]Review of open CR issues 6. [10]166 Steps with no type in p:library 7. [11]167 Runtime semantics of p:try 8. [12]Progress on the default processing model? 9. [13]Any other business * [14]Summary of Action Items -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Accept this agenda? -> [15]http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/10/01-agenda Accepted. Accept minutes from the previous meeting? -> [16]http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/09/17-minutes Accepted. Next meeting: telcon 8 Oct 2009 Mohamed gives possible regrets. Plans for interim CR draft Norm summarizes the status; getting there but not quite ready. Norm: I propose a publication date of 12 Oct with a commitment from the editor to get a new draft available by close-of-business on 8 Oct. No objections heard. Proposal: Publish the current editor's working draft, with additional changes as seen fit by the editor, as a new interim CR draft on 12 Oct. Accepted. Review of open CR issues -> [17]http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2008/11/cr-comments/ Norm: We resolved 163, or rather directed the editor to resolve it, last time. Norm summarizes his change to the declared output bindings. Proposal: The editor got it right. Accepted. Proposal: This part of 2.2 has been successfully clarified as well. Accepted. Norm: I think that closes 163. 166 Steps with no type in p:library Norm: I think the status quo is that it isn't an error to do this. ... but it does seem a little pointless. Mohamed: I think we should say something about this. Norm: I think there are two choices: make it an error or just add a note about it. Norm/Mohamed discuss the fact that an implementation-defined mechanism could run them even if they don't have a type. Paul: I don't think we should make it an error. Norm: It looks to me fairly harmless. Proposal: Add a note to the spec to inform readers, but not make it an error. Accepted. 167 Runtime semantics of p:try Norm expresses his feeling that p:try is still in the spirit of this rule. Henry: It is worth putting an explicit note in the spec about this. If all it said was the result of a multi container step will always be the result of exactly one of it's pipelines, that would be true. But that's not quite true for p:try. ... I think we should add "with the possible exception of side-effects in the main branch of a try/catch in which the try fails." ... Pipelines are going to have side effects. Some discussion of whether or not the xpath expressions in p:when clauses can cause side effects. Henry: I think it's worth recasting this. <scribe> ACTION: Editor to attempt to clarify this prose, noting that side effects may arise in p:group w/i p:try and from XPath expressions evaluated by p:when or from the bindings within p:xpath-context. [recorded in [18]http://www.w3.org/2009/10/01-xproc-minutes.html#action01] Henry: I'd say "with the possible except of side effects, such as..." so we don't seem to be enumerating them all. Progress on the default processing model? Henry reports no progress. Henry: I will try to get something done before the face-to-face. Any other business Norm expresses the goal of getting to PR this month. Mohamed: Last time I looked at the test suite, coverage wasn't that good. Has it improved? Norm: I didn't think it was that bad after we added serialization tests. Adjourned. Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: Editor to attempt to clarify this prose, noting that side effects may arise in p:group w/i p:try and from XPath expressions evaluated by p:when or from the bindings within p:xpath-context. [recorded in [19]http://www.w3.org/2009/10/01-xproc-minutes.html#action01] [End of minutes] -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Minutes formatted by David Booth's [20]scribe.perl version 1.135 ([21]CVS log) $Date: 2009/10/01 20:00:55 $ References 1. http://www.w3.org/ 2. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/10/01-agenda 3. http://www.w3.org/2009/10/01-xproc-irc 4. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/10/01-minutes#agenda 5. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/10/01-minutes#item01 6. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/10/01-minutes#item02 7. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/10/01-minutes#item03 8. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/10/01-minutes#item04 9. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/10/01-minutes#item05 10. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/10/01-minutes#item06 11. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/10/01-minutes#item07 12. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/10/01-minutes#item08 13. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/10/01-minutes#item09 14. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/10/01-minutes#ActionSummary 15. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/10/01-agenda 16. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/09/17-minutes 17. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2008/11/cr-comments/ 18. http://www.w3.org/2009/10/01-xproc-minutes.html#action01 19. http://www.w3.org/2009/10/01-xproc-minutes.html#action01 20. http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm 21. http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/
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