- From: Norman Walsh <ndw@nwalsh.com>
- Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:02:00 -0400
- To: public-xml-processing-model-wg@w3.org
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See http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/10/01-minutes
[1]W3C
- DRAFT -
XML Processing Model WG
Meeting 154, 01 Oct 2009
[2]Agenda
See also: [3]IRC log
Attendees
Present
Norm, Paul, Henry, Mohamed
Regrets
Vojtech, Alex
Chair
Norm
Scribe
Norm
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Accept this agenda?
2. [6]Accept minutes from the previous meeting?
3. [7]Next meeting: telcon 8 Oct 2009
4. [8]Plans for interim CR draft
5. [9]Review of open CR issues
6. [10]166 Steps with no type in p:library
7. [11]167 Runtime semantics of p:try
8. [12]Progress on the default processing model?
9. [13]Any other business
* [14]Summary of Action Items
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Accept this agenda?
-> [15]http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/10/01-agenda
Accepted.
Accept minutes from the previous meeting?
-> [16]http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/09/17-minutes
Accepted.
Next meeting: telcon 8 Oct 2009
Mohamed gives possible regrets.
Plans for interim CR draft
Norm summarizes the status; getting there but not quite ready.
Norm: I propose a publication date of 12 Oct with a commitment from the
editor to get a new draft available by close-of-business on 8 Oct.
No objections heard.
Proposal: Publish the current editor's working draft, with additional
changes as seen fit by the editor, as a new interim CR draft on 12 Oct.
Accepted.
Review of open CR issues
-> [17]http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2008/11/cr-comments/
Norm: We resolved 163, or rather directed the editor to resolve it, last
time.
Norm summarizes his change to the declared output bindings.
Proposal: The editor got it right.
Accepted.
Proposal: This part of 2.2 has been successfully clarified as well.
Accepted.
Norm: I think that closes 163.
166 Steps with no type in p:library
Norm: I think the status quo is that it isn't an error to do this.
... but it does seem a little pointless.
Mohamed: I think we should say something about this.
Norm: I think there are two choices: make it an error or just add a note
about it.
Norm/Mohamed discuss the fact that an implementation-defined mechanism
could run them even if they don't have a type.
Paul: I don't think we should make it an error.
Norm: It looks to me fairly harmless.
Proposal: Add a note to the spec to inform readers, but not make it an
error.
Accepted.
167 Runtime semantics of p:try
Norm expresses his feeling that p:try is still in the spirit of this rule.
Henry: It is worth putting an explicit note in the spec about this. If all
it said was the result of a multi container step will always be the result
of exactly one of it's pipelines, that would be true. But that's not quite
true for p:try.
... I think we should add "with the possible exception of side-effects in
the main branch of a try/catch in which the try fails."
... Pipelines are going to have side effects.
Some discussion of whether or not the xpath expressions in p:when clauses
can cause side effects.
Henry: I think it's worth recasting this.
<scribe> ACTION: Editor to attempt to clarify this prose, noting that side
effects may arise in p:group w/i p:try and from XPath expressions
evaluated by p:when or from the bindings within p:xpath-context. [recorded
in [18]http://www.w3.org/2009/10/01-xproc-minutes.html#action01]
Henry: I'd say "with the possible except of side effects, such as..." so
we don't seem to be enumerating them all.
Progress on the default processing model?
Henry reports no progress.
Henry: I will try to get something done before the face-to-face.
Any other business
Norm expresses the goal of getting to PR this month.
Mohamed: Last time I looked at the test suite, coverage wasn't that good.
Has it improved?
Norm: I didn't think it was that bad after we added serialization tests.
Adjourned.
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Editor to attempt to clarify this prose, noting that side
effects may arise in p:group w/i p:try and from XPath expressions
evaluated by p:when or from the bindings within p:xpath-context. [recorded
in [19]http://www.w3.org/2009/10/01-xproc-minutes.html#action01]
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References
1. http://www.w3.org/
2. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/10/01-agenda
3. http://www.w3.org/2009/10/01-xproc-irc
4. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/10/01-minutes#agenda
5. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/10/01-minutes#item01
6. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/10/01-minutes#item02
7. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/10/01-minutes#item03
8. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/10/01-minutes#item04
9. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/10/01-minutes#item05
10. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/10/01-minutes#item06
11. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/10/01-minutes#item07
12. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/10/01-minutes#item08
13. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/10/01-minutes#item09
14. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/10/01-minutes#ActionSummary
15. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/10/01-agenda
16. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2009/09/17-minutes
17. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2008/11/cr-comments/
18. http://www.w3.org/2009/10/01-xproc-minutes.html#action01
19. http://www.w3.org/2009/10/01-xproc-minutes.html#action01
20. http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm
21. http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/
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