Agenda for XML Core WG telcon of 2014 February 5

We have an XML Core WG phone call scheduled for Wednesday,
February 5, from
08:30-09:00 Pacific time aka
11:30-12:00 Eastern time aka
16:30-17:00 UTC
16:30-17:00 in Ireland and the UK
17:30-18:00 in middle (most of) Europe
on the Zakim W3C Bridge, +1 617 761 6200, passcode 9652#.
We also use IRC channel #xmlcore on irc.w3.org:6665 .


See the XML Core group page [1] for pointers to current documents
and other information.  If you have additions to the agenda, please
email them to the WG list before the start of the telcon.

Please also review our group page's task list [2] for accuracy and
completeness and be prepared to amend if necessary and accept it
at the beginning of the call.



Agenda
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1. Accepting the minutes from the last telcon [3] and
   the current task status [2] (have any questions, comments,
   or corrections ready by the beginning of the call).


2. Miscellaneous administrivia and document reviews.

XML Potential Errata
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Comment that "or by the Byte Order Mark" is lacking in section 4.3.3:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-editor/2013OctDec/0002

Comment that an entity cannot "begin" with a BOM as suggested in section 
4.3.3:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-editor/2013OctDec/0003

ACTION to John: Review and comment on the above two comments
on the discussion of BOMs in section 4.3.3 of the XML spec.

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Comment about documents with an "empty DTD":
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2014Jan/thread#msg8
and
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-editor/2014JanMar/

Henry suggests we could probably make the XML spec clearer here;
see also his comments at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-editor/2014JanMar/0004

Paul drafted a response and there was some discussion at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2014Jan/thread#msg19
and also at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2014Jan/thread#msg20

Paul just sent out a slightly modified DRAFT #2 at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2014Feb/0001

ACTION especially to Jirka, Henry, John:  Review Paul's latest draft at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2014Feb/0001


Submitting XML Schema 1.1 to ISO
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See also
https://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-schema

We have decided we will first publish XML Schema 1.1 2E (with
approved errata).  After that, we would send XML Schema 1.1 2E
(only) to ISO.

Loren has offered to do the editorial duties, and David
talked to CMSMCQ about getting some more help in the details.
It looks like there are 3 bugs for Structures, none for Datatypes,
but check with Michael.

Henry might be able to help with the tool chain needed to
publish XML Schema 1.1.

ACTION to Loren and David: Produce a publication-ready version
of XML Schema 1.1 2E incorporating the approved errata.


Reviewing HTML5 Polyglot Markup
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We've been asked to review something at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2014Feb/0000
though I'm requesting clarification at
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2014JanMar/0076
about just what we've supposed to review.


3.  XML Test Suite.

See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-test-suite


4.  LEIRIs--see http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#leiri

We have planned to issue the following spec editions referencing
LEIRIs (and any outstanding errata):

* XML 1.0 6th Edition (John to be editor)
* XML 1.1 3rd Edition (John to be editor)
* XInclude 3rd Edition (Paul to be editor)

but all this is on hold awaiting resolution of IRIbis.


5.  XML Media types (3023bis)

See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-media

Latest IETF draft is -06 dated December 5 at
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-appsawg-xml-mediatypes-06.html

Subsequently, there was further discussion of Appendix B and how
to reference it; see
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2013Nov/thread#msg21

Henry indicates the IETF review has shown considerable
interest in adding something along the following lines:

  Going forward, XML producers SHOULD use UTF-8 exclusively
  and it SHOULDN'T have any BOM. For compatibility with existing
  implementations, the following processing rules are given....

John is concerned that this is put on *producers* rather
than transmitters. He says it's perfectly reasonable for
producers to produce other encodings locally.

Henry replies that (and this could/should be made clearer)
"XML producers" _means_ "XML producers of entities for
delivery by MIME-compliant means".

ACTION to Henry:  Edit 3023bis to suggest that XML producers
of entities for delivery by MIME-compliant means SHOULD always
produce BOM-less UTF-8.


6.  XInclude 1.1--see http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xinclude

On 2012 February 14, we published
XInclude 1.1 Requirement and Use Cases
http://www.w3.org/TR/xinclude-11-requirements/

On 9 October 2012, we published our FPWD of XInclude 1.1 at
http://www.w3.org/XML/2012/10/WD-xinclude-11-20121009/

On 15 January 2013, we published our (first) Last Call of
XInclude 1.1 at
http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/WD-xinclude-11-20130115/
and Paul sent the transition announcement at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2013Jan/0012
(also cc-ing the chairs mailing list).

On 2013 October 8, we published the XInclude 1.1 CR at
http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/CR-xinclude-11-20131008/

Norm reports that Michael Kay's code just accesses Xerces code,
so Norm might have to work with Xerces.

DV reports that he is busy and so cannot commit to a deadline
for adding XInclude 1.1 support to libxml.

ACTION to Norm:  Continue to work toward getting XInclude 1.1
implementations and document them in our implementation report.


7. MicroXML

MicroXML is not in our new charter, but we can discuss it.
We will leave this as an ongoing item in our standing agenda.


paul

[1] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core
[2] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#tasks
[3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2013Dec/0002