Agenda for XML Core WG telcon of 2013 March 20

We have an XML Core WG phone call scheduled for Wednesday,
March 20, from
          08:30-09:00 Pacific time aka
          11:30-12:00 Eastern time aka
          15:30-16:00 UTC
   ===>   15:30-16:00 in Ireland and the UK
   ===>   16:30-17:00 in middle (most of) Europe
on the Zakim W3C Bridge, +1 617 761 6200, passcode 9652#.
We also use IRC channel #xmlcore on irc.w3.org:6665 .

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NOTE:  This telcon falls in the time frame after
North American has shifted to daylight time and before
the rest of the northern hemisphere has so shifted.

Therefore, XML Core WG members dialing in from Europe will
have to dial in one hour earlier local time next week.

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See the XML Core group page [1] for pointers to current documents
and other information.  If you have additions to the agenda, please
email them to the WG list before the start of the telcon.

Please also review our group page's task list [2] for accuracy and
completeness and be prepared to amend if necessary and accept it
at the beginning of the call.


Agenda
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1. Accepting the minutes from the last telcon [3] and
   the current task status [2] (have any questions, comments,
   or corrections ready by the beginning of the call).


2. Miscellaneous administrivia and document reviews.

xmlspec.xsl and diffspec.xsl
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Paul sent email about this at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2012Nov/0014

ACTION to Norm:  Come up with (and implement) a plan to
reorganize xmlspec.xsl and diffspec.xsl to "do the right thing."


DOM4
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Henry reported that DOM4 has removed (or deprecated) access to the
XML Declaration. Our Infoset spec says that standalone, version,
and the encoding are part of the information content of an XML
document.

Henry and Paul think the XML Core WG should send an email
to the Web Applications Working Group (public-webapps@w3.org)
to reinstate the parts of the xml decl that are in the Infoset.

Henry drafted a potential comment at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2013Feb/0023

John filed some thoughts to the contrary at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2013Feb/0026

Henry figures we should discuss this some more.
Norm is having a hard time caring about all this.

ACTION to Henry:  Reach out to the webapps working group
and/or others to try to collect some more data on this issue.
  

Fully normalized XML
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This discussion started with a posting to xml-editor at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-editor/2013JanMar/0002
but then Norm found some more concerning issues at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2013Feb/0027
wherein different tools handle the combining characters differently.

It doesn't appear that it's obvious what the "right"
answer is.  Perhaps we need to add something to the
XML spec about this.  We need to research this some more.

The XML Core WG email thread is at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2013Feb/thread#msg21

Paul drafted a response to Roger Costello and posted it at:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2013Mar/0005

Norm said it looked okay.

Paul asked Henry:
  Henry, at http://www.w3.org/XML/2002/09/xml11-implementation
  it says that RXP "incorporates code from Martin Duerst to
  optionally check for Unicode character normalization." Is
  there something we can say to Roger about this?

ACTION to Henry: Find out if RXP does optionally check for
Unicode character normalization.

ACTION to Henry, John:  Read Paul's draft response at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2013Mar/0005
and comment.
  

3.  XML Test Suite.

See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-test-suite

ACTION to Henry:  Construct a test case for the XML test suite
issues raised by Frans Englich:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-testsuite/2007Mar/


4.  LEIRIs--see http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#leiri

We have planned to issue the following spec editions referencing
LEIRIs (and any outstanding errata):

* XML 1.0 6th Edition (John to be editor)
* XML 1.1 3rd Edition (John to be editor)
* XInclude 3rd Edition (Paul to be editor)

but all this is on hold awaiting resolution of IRIbis.

Henry has been added as an editor and there is now a new draft,
draft-lilley-xml-mediatypes-00 at
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lilley-xml-mediatypes-00

We now await this going through the IETF process.


5.  XInclude 1.1--see http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xinclude

On 2012 February 14, we published
XInclude 1.1 Requirement and Use Cases
http://www.w3.org/TR/xinclude-11-requirements/

On 9 October 2012, we published our FPWD of XInclude 1.1 at
http://www.w3.org/XML/2012/10/WD-xinclude-11-20121009/

On 15 January 2013, we published our (first) Last Call of
XInclude 1.1 at
http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/WD-xinclude-11-20130115/
and Paul sent the transition announcement at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2013Jan/0012
(also cc-ing the chairs mailing list).

To date, there has been one comment posted to
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-xinclude-comments/

Norm posted announcement of the XInclude 1.1 Last Call
to the DocBook list and there have been some comments at
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook/201301/threads.html#00005

Norm posted announcement of the XInclude 1.1 Last Call
to the xml-dev list at
http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/201302/msg00023.html
(No comments to date.)

ACTION to Norm:  Prepare a Disposition of Comments document for
XInclude 1.1.

ACTION to Norm:  Create an Implementation Report document for
XInclude 1.1.


paul

[1] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core
[2] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#tasks
[3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2013Mar/0003