XML Core WG Status and Open Actions as of 2012 May 21

The XML Core WG telcons are every other week.

Our next telcon will be 2012 May 30.


Status and open actions
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Fall TPAC
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There will be a TPAC meeting in Lyon, France in October/November:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2012Mar/0006

We have signed up to have a WG f2f there.

Likely to attend:  Norm, Liam, Henry, Jirka, Mohamed
Not likely to attend:  Glenn, Paul, John, Daniel


Request for xml:href et al.
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Someone (apparently from the National Research Council
of Canada) sent a message to xml-editor archived at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-editor/2012AprJun/0000
requesting that we add xml:href, xml:rel, and xml:type
attributes.

Paul sent the WG response at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-editor/2012AprJun/0001

The commenter replied at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-editor/2012AprJun/0002
with more questions and suggestions.  There was a bit more WG
discussion, but nothing to change our minds.  We are probably
at permanent loggerheads here--not sure if there's much more
we can do, but suggestions are welcome.


xml-stylesheet and HTML5
------------------------
Hnery took an action to file a bug about xml-stylesheet
handling.  Done:
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14689

Henry has done a lot more testing and filing of results to date.
Henry's tests are at
http://www.w3.org/XML/2011/11/ssTests/
You need to look at the README and README2 files there.

The CSS2 spec says something about styling XML with CSS.
Henry also notes http://www.w3.org/Style/styling-XML.en.html.

ACTION to Henry: File a bug against the HTML5 spec saying that
it should support styling XML with CSS.


issues with the Polyglot draft:  BOM
------------------------------------
Henry sent email with various potential issues at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2011Nov/0037

We discussed the point about the spec recommending [P1] the use of
the UTF-8 BOM.

[P1] http://dev.w3.org/html5/html-xhtml-author-guide/#character-encoding

Henry thinks we converged on this in email on Wednesday 11 January:
See
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2012Jan/0007

Henry filed an issue against Polyglot about the BOM:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2012May/0000

Someone pushed back saying that the BOM is more robust than
the meta as a way of signaling UTF-8, so we shouldn't make
meta the preferred way of doing it.  The proposed compromise
is that neither would be listed as preferred.

We're okay with that compromise.

ACTION to Henry:  Accept the compromise.


issues with the Polyglot draft:  xml:space and xml:base
-------------------------------------------------------
See the minutes at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2012Jan/0016
for the discussion.

Henry has drafted two issues regarding xml:space and xml:base in
the Polyglot draft and HTML5 for WG review; see
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2012May/0001
and provide comments.

Norm thinks Henry's draft is fine.  Let's submit it and
see what happens.

ACTION to Henry:  Submit his comments on xml:space and xml:base.


XInclude 1.1
------------
On 2012 February 14, we published
XInclude 1.1 Requirement and Use Cases
http://www.w3.org/TR/xinclude-11-requirements/
summarizing the requirements and use cases for possible
enhancements to XInclude addressing the issues:

* @xpointer when parse="text"
* copying attributes from the xinclude element to the root
  included element

We did get mostly positive feedback from Chris Lilley at:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-xinclude-comments/2012Feb/0000

Norm has posted something to the DocBook TC:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook/201202/msg00001.html

Norm nudged the DocBook mailing list again
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook/201204/msg00000.html
and did publish this a few weeks ago:
http://norman.walsh.name/2012/02/20/xinclude11

Jirka gave some more feedback at
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook/201204/msg00002.html
and also included it at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2012Apr/0002

Daniel raised a concern about there possibly not being a root
included element at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2012Apr/0010
and Jirka responded at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2012Apr/0011
We will need to consider this issue when we draft the spec.

An updated charter is in the process of an internal W3M
review, and then it would need to be reviewed by the AC.
We don't expect any pushback, but in practice it will
probably take a couple months before we really have a
new charter.

Meanwhile we could work on an XInclude 1.1 draft, but
we couldn't publish it until we have our new charter.

Norm is willing to continue to be editor of XInclude 1.1.

We will start working on a draft over the next couple months
by which time we should have a new charter and be able to
publish.


XML Model
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Jirka reminded us that ISO published XML Model as an international
standard.  One can buy it at
http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnumber=54793

He said that the process is in order to try to allow the ISO version
to be published for free.

We will wait to see if it becomes freely available and then update
our note to reference it.

Jirka reported that the ISO process for making the ISO version
free is a bit involved.  WG1 has to recommend to SC34 that the
spec be made public.  This should happen at a June 2012 meeting.
Then there is a 60 day ballot in SC34, then there is a 60 day ballot at 
the JTC1 level.  If all goes well, ISO/IEC 19757-11
could be published at the ITTF page in late 2012.

So it doesn't look like we'd be updating our XML Model WG Note
before 2013.

Received on Monday, 21 May 2012 13:42:29 UTC