Re: Agenda for XML Core WG telcon of 2012 June 13

Hi, same with me.

   Jirka

On 12.6.2012 14:21, Innovimax W3C wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> Please accept my regrets
> 
> My proxy to the chair
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Mohamed
> 
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Paul Grosso <paul@paulgrosso.name> wrote:
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>>  We have an XML Core WG phone call scheduled for Wednesday,
>> June 13, from
>>          08:30-09:00 Pacific time aka
>>          11:30-12:00 Eastern time aka
>>          15:30-16:00 UTC
>>          16:30-17:00 in Ireland and the UK
>>          17:30-18:00 in middle (most of) Europe
>> on the Zakim W3C Bridge, +1 617 761 6200, passcode 9652#.
>> We also use IRC channel #xmlcore on irc.w3.org:6665 .
>>
>> See the XML Core group page [1] for pointers to current documents
>> and other information.  If you have additions to the agenda, please
>> email them to the WG list before the start of the telcon.
>>
>> Please also review our group page's task list [2] for accuracy and
>> completeness and be prepared to amend if necessary and accept it
>> at the beginning of the call.
>>
>>
>> Regrets from Henry.
>>
>>
>> Agenda
>> ======
>> 1. Accepting the minutes from the last telcon [3] and
>>   the current task status [2] (have any questions, comments,
>>   or corrections ready by the beginning of the call).
>>
>>
>> 2. Miscellaneous administrivia and document reviews.
>>
>> XML Core WG Charter
>> -------------------
>> The amended XML Core WG charter that allows us to work on
>> XInclude 1.1 is currently out for AC review.  Please get
>> your AC rep to complete the review.  The call for review is at
>> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-members/2012AprJun/0059
>>
>>
>> Fall TPAC
>> ---------
>> There will be a TPAC meeting in Lyon, France in October/November:
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2012Mar/0006
>>
>> We have signed up to have a WG f2f there.
>>
>> Likely to attend:  Norm, Liam, Henry, Jirka, Mohamed
>> Not likely to attend:  Glenn, Paul, John, Daniel
>>
>>
>> xml-stylesheet and HTML5
>> ------------------------
>> Henry took an action to file a bug about xml-stylesheet
>> handling.  Done:
>> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14689
>>
>> Henry has done a lot more testing and filing of results to date.
>> Henry's tests are at
>> http://www.w3.org/XML/2011/11/ssTests/
>> You need to look at the README and README2 files there.
>>
>> The CSS2 spec says something about styling XML with CSS.
>> Henry also notes http://www.w3.org/Style/styling-XML.en.html.
>>
>> ACTION to Henry: File a bug against the HTML5 spec saying that
>> it should support styling XML with CSS.
>>
>>
>> issues with the Polyglot draft
>> ------------------------------
>> Henry sent email with various potential issues at
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2011Nov/0037
>>
>> Polyglot draft: BOM
>> -------------------
>> We discussed the point about the spec recommending [P1] the use of the
>> UTF-8 BOM.
>>
>> [P1] http://dev.w3.org/html5/html-xhtml-author-guide/#character-encoding
>>
>> Henry filed an issue against Polyglot about the BOM:
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2012May/0000
>>
>> Someone pushed back saying that the BOM is more robust than
>> the meta as a way of signaling UTF-8, so we shouldn't make
>> meta the preferred way of doing it.  The proposed compromise
>> is that neither would be listed as preferred.
>>
>> We're okay with that compromise.
>>
>> ACTION to Henry:  Accept the compromise.
>>
>>
>> Polyglot draft: xml:space and xml:base
>> --------------------------------------
>> See the minutes at
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2012Jan/0016
>> for the discussion.
>>
>> Henry has drafted two issues regarding xml:space and xml:base in
>> the Polyglot draft and HTML5 for WG review; see
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2012May/0001
>>
>> Norm thinks Henry's draft is fine.  Let's submit it and
>> see what happens.
>>
>> ACTION to Henry:  Submit his comments on xml:space and xml:base.
>>
>>
>> 3.  XML Test Suite.
>>
>> See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-test-suite
>>
>> ACTION to Henry:  Construct a test case for the XML test suite
>> issues raised by Frans Englich:
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-testsuite/2007Mar/
>>
>>
>> 4.  LEIRIs--see http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#leiri
>>
>> We have planned to issue the following spec editions referencing
>> LEIRIs (and any outstanding errata):
>>
>> * XML 1.0 6th Edition (John to be editor)
>> * XML 1.1 3rd Edition (John to be editor)
>> * XInclude 3rd Edition (Paul to be editor)
>>
>> but all this is on hold awaiting resolution of IRIbis.
>>
>>
>> 5.  XInclude 1.1--see http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xinclude
>>
>> On 2012 February 14, we published
>> XInclude 1.1 Requirement and Use Cases
>> http://www.w3.org/TR/xinclude-11-requirements/
>> summarizing the requirements and use cases for possible
>> enhancements to XInclude addressing the issues:
>>
>> * @xpointer when parse="text"
>> * copying attributes from the xinclude element to the root
>>   included element
>>
>> We did get mostly positive feedback from Chris Lilley at:
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-xinclude-comments/2012Feb/0000
>>
>> Norm has posted something to the DocBook TC:
>> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook/201202/msg00001.html
>>
>> Norm nudged the DocBook mailing list again
>> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook/201204/msg00000.html
>> and did publish this a few weeks ago:
>> http://norman.walsh.name/2012/02/20/xinclude11
>>
>> Jirka gave some more feedback at
>> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook/201204/msg00002.html
>> and also included it at
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2012Apr/0002
>>
>> Daniel raised a concern about there possibly not being a root
>> included element at
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2012Apr/0010
>> and Jirka responded at
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2012Apr/0011
>> We will need to consider this issue when we draft the spec.
>>
>> An updated charter is being reviewed by the AC.
>> We don't expect any pushback, but in practice it will
>> probably take a couple months before we really have a
>> new charter.
>>
>> Meanwhile we could work on an XInclude 1.1 draft, but
>> we couldn't publish it until we have our new charter.
>>
>> Norm is willing to continue to be editor of XInclude 1.1.
>>
>> We will start working on a draft over the next couple months
>> by which time we should have a new charter and be able to
>> publish.
>>
>> ACTION to Norm:  Send out emails on the key XInclude 1.1 issues.
>>
>>
>> 6.  XML Model
>>
>> Jirka reminded us that ISO published XML Model as an international
>> standard.  One can buy it at
>>
>> http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnumber=54793
>>
>> He said that the process is in order to try to allow the ISO version
>> to be published for free.
>>
>> We will wait to see if it becomes freely available and then update
>> our note to reference it.
>>
>> Jirka reported that the ISO process for making the ISO version
>> free is a bit involved.  WG1 has to recommend to SC34 that the
>> spec be made public.  This should happen at a June 2012 meeting.
>> Then there is a 60 day ballot in SC34, then there is a 60 day
>> ballot at the JTC1 level.  If all goes well, ISO/IEC 19757-11
>> could be published at the ITTF page in late 2012.
>>
>> So it doesn't look like we'd be updating our XML Model WG Note
>> before 2013.
>>
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>> paul
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>> [1] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core
>> [2] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#tasks
>> [3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2012May/0018
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