- From: Henry S. Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk>
- Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:08:40 +0100
- To: "Grosso, Paul" <pgrosso@ptc.com>
- Cc: <public-xml-core-wg@w3.org>
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Here's an attempt to explain my problem. What is the implicit processing order as between validation and xml:id processing? Why didn't we talk about xml:id compliant validation, since neither order actually makes sense? This sentence from the intro seems to imply that: A mechanism allowing unique element identifiers to be recognized by all conformant XML processors, whether they validate or not, is desirable in making XML sub-resource linking robust. This sentence from the intro seems to imply xml:id first: It has been a guiding principle in the design of this specification that the result of xml:id processing should be the same as if an appropriate declaration has been seen and used by the processor. As does this: [Definition: An xml:id processor is a software module that works in conjunction with an XML processor to provide access to the IDs in an XML document.] since at least W3C XML Schema validators depend on infoset input, i.e. the _output_ of "an XML processor". However the following appears to assume that xml:id comes _after_ validation: [Definition: The process of ID type assignment causes an xml:id attribute value to be an ID.] This is often achieved by making the type of the attribute "ID" in the infoset or post-schema-validation infoset (PSVI), but that is not the only possible mechanism. since a PSVI only exists after validation. Likewise references to attributes having non-ID types imply xml:id comes after, well, at least, type-assignment. If the implicit ordering is validate, then xml:id-process, then isn't the right change to D3 (and D2 _mutatis mutandis_) to be to say something along the lines of "XML Schema authors are encouraged to declare attributes named xml:id with the type xs:ID. A document that uses xml:id attributes that have a declared type other than xs:ID will always generate xml:id errors vvvvvv----New Text----vvvvvv when processed by an xml:id processor which has access to type assignment information." If necessary, we could go on to add a Note: Relax NG processors are not required to make type assignment information available. ht - -- Henry S. Thompson, School of Informatics, University of Edinburgh Half-time member of W3C Team 10 Crichton Street, Edinburgh EH8 9AB, SCOTLAND -- (44) 131 650-4440 Fax: (44) 131 651-1426, e-mail: ht@inf.ed.ac.uk URL: http://www.ltg.ed.ac.uk/~ht/ [mail really from me _always_ has this .sig -- mail without it is forged spam] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFJ7zL4kjnJixAXWBoRAn6RAJ9GwQ96Mbb0QmkaRWYnwbjY8MplZwCcCq6U n3fewntHkA/8ic9aoq/9jgg= =5uNy -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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