Minutes for XML Core WG telcon of 2008 November 5

Attendees
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 Konrad 
 Glenn 
 Norm xx:10
 Paul 
 Richard
 Henry
 Daniel  xx:26

[7 organizations (7 with proxies) present out of 9]

Regrets
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Absent organizations
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Google
François Yergeau


> 1. Accepting the minutes from the last telcon [3] and
>    the current task status [2] (have any questions, comments,
>    or corrections ready by the beginning of the call).

Accepted.

> 
> 2. Miscellaneous administrivia and document reviews.
> 
> The Efficient XML Interchange Working Group announces 
> the Last Call publication of 
> Efficient XML Interchange Format 1.0 
> on Sept 19th.  The document is available at:
> 
>  http://www.w3.org/TR/exi/ 
> 
> The Last Call review period ends on 7th November 2008.
> 
> John's last review is at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2007Oct/0025
> 
> Change since previous publications are outlined at
> http://www.w3.org/TR/exi/#changes
> 
> ACTION to John:  Review this and give us any comments.
> 
> [John did send to the chairs and team contact a comment
> saying that he did review it and he believes XML Core WG 
> should say that we have no specific issues to raise.]
> 
> DV asks if we want to voice disagreement in his email at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2008Nov/0003
> 
> ACTION to Paul:  Get the WG to approve a review comment
> and send it in.

ACTION to Paul:  Write and send in a review of EXI.

> 
> 3.  XML 1.0
> 
> See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-errata
> 
> The XML 1.0 5th Edition PER has been published at
>  http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/PER-xml-20080205/
> 
> The PER period ended 16 May 2008. 
> 
> An implementation report is at
> http://www.w3.org/XML/2008/01/xml10-5e-implementation
> 
> The DoC is at
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2008/09/xml-5e/disposition.html
> 
> The latest almost-Rec-ready draft is at
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2008/09/XML5e/
> 
> ACTION to Henry:  Organize a transition telcon for XML 1.0 5th Ed.

ACTION to Henry continued.

> 
> 4.  XML Test Suite.
> 
> See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-test-suite
> 
> ACTION to Richard:  Construct a test case for the XML test suite 
> issues raised by Frans Englich:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-testsuite/2007Mar/ 

ACTION to Richard continued.

> 
> 5.  Namespaces in XML 1.0/1.1
> 
> See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#ns1.0 and
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#ns1.1.
> 
> Richard has partially updated the NS PE doc at
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2001/05/proposed-xml-names-errata.html
> 
> Richard added some discussion at
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2001/05/proposed-xml-names-errata.html#npe29
> The WG agreed with his direction and asked that he go forward with it.
> 
> ACTION to Richard:  Fill in a proposed resolution for NPE29.
> 
> ACTION to Richard:  Add an NPE changing URIs to IRIs in NS 1.0.
> 
> James Clark pointed out that XML 1.0 5th Ed and NS 1.0 are
> now out of sync wrt Names, so we may need to consider an
> erratum to NS 1.0.  See
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2008Nov/thread.html#msg0

In NS 1.0, NCName is defined to start with NCNameStartChar
which is defined in NS 1.0 at
http://www.w3.org/TR/xml-names/#NT-NCNameStartChar
to be 	Letter | '_'
where Letter is defined in XML 1.0, and Letter in XML 1.0 5th Ed
does not include all the characters allowed as the initial character
of a Name in XML 1.0 5th Ed.

We could redefine NS 1.0 NCName as Name (from XML) without colon
and leave the now orphaned NCNameChar and NCNameStartChar
productions in case other specs reference them--we may need
to update them appropriately to reflect XML 1.0 5th Ed changes.

ACTION to Henry and Richard:  Make a specific proposal for
changing the NS 1.0 spec to address this NCNameStartChar problem.

We need to be sure we check back with James on our suggested
resolution.

> 
> 6.  LEIRIs
> 
> See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#leiri
> 
> A summary of what specs need to be revised to reference LEIRIs is at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2007Dec/0045
> 
> Martin's has made a new latest version of IRI-bis available at 
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-duerst-iri-bis-04
> 
> The WG now plans to publish a WG Note defining LEIRIs, 
> and Henry has volunteered to be the editor.
> 
> The progression of XML Base, XLink, and XInclude
> (and XML 1.0 6th Ed) all must await this note.
> 
> Henry's latest draft of a WG Note defining LEIRIs is at
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2008/09/NOTE-leiri-20080926/
> 
> Henry sent a transition request at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2008OctDec/0078
> which mentions a November 3 pubdate, but I am unaware
> of any publication (or publication request).

We expect it to be published today or tomorrow.

> 
> 7.  XML Base 2nd Edition 2nd PER
> 
> See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xml-base
> 
> The (second) XML Base (Second Edition) PER has been published at
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/PER-xmlbase-20080320/
> and announced at
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2008JanMar/0112
> 
> The XML Base PER review period ended 30 June 2008.
> 
> Richard developed an initial draft DoC document for XML Base at
> http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2008/09/xmlbase-2e/disposition.html
> 
> ACTION to Richard:  Update the DoC pointing to our response to
> the commentor and their acceptance, if any.  See also
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2008Sep/0015
> for more suggestions on how to present the DoC.

We got some responses from the XHTML WG that should be added
to our Doc; see
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-linking-comments/2008OctDec/0004
and following.  Richard has updated the DoC accordingly.

ACTION to Richard:  Update the spec to reference the LEIRI note.

ACTION to Henry:  Take XML Base 2nd Ed to Rec.

> 
> 8.  XLink 1.1.
> 
> See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xlink1.1
> 
> The earlier XLink CR was published at
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/CR-xlink11-20060328/ 
> 
> The XLink 1.1 LC was published at
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-xlink11-20080331/
> 
> The LC review period ended 16 May 2008.
> 
> Norm has prepared a DoC at 
> http://www.w3.org/XML/2008/05/xlinklc/
> 
> ACTION to Henry:  Continue to get the XSD for
> XLink at an accessible URI.
> 
> There's an open question about whether the XSD/DTD 
> should default the xlink:type attribute value. 
> None of this effects our last call because the
> XSD/DTD are not normative.
> 
> John asked whether we should have two schemas, one for
> each of our conformance levels.
> 
> ACTION to Henry, John:  Think about having a basic level
> conformance XSD for XLink.

ACTION to Henry, John continued.

> 
> Paul asks us to consider skipping CR and going directly to PR.
> 
> ACTION to Henry:  Review the history and make a recommendation
> as to whether we should skip CR and go directly to PR.

ACTION to Henry continued.

> 
> 
> 9.  XInclude 3rd Edition
> 
> See also http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xinclude
> 
> XInclude 2nd Edition is at:
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xinclude-20061115
> 
> See http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#xinclude for
> LEIRI-related changes for the 3rd Edition.
> 
> ACTION to Daniel: Produce a PER-ready draft of XInclude 3rd Ed
> with appropriate references to the IRI RFC for LEIRIs.
> 
> 
> [1] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core
> [2] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#tasks
> [3] 
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2008Oct/0012
>

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