- From: François Yergeau <francois@yergeau.com>
- Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 07:37:52 -0700
- To: "Grosso, Paul" <pgrosso@ptc.com>
- Cc: public-xml-core-wg@w3.org
Regrets, can't make it today. -- François Grosso, Paul a écrit : > > We have an XML Core WG phone call scheduled for Wednesday, > September 12, from > 08:00-09:00 Pacific time aka > 11:00-12:00 Eastern time aka > 15:00-16:00 UTC > 16:00-17:00 in Ireland and the UK > 17:00-18:00 in middle (most of) Europe > 20:30-21:30 in most of India > on the Zakim W3C Bridge, +1 617 761 6200, passcode 9652#. > We also use IRC channel #xmlcore on irc.w3.org:6665 . > > See the XML Core group page [1] for pointers to current documents > and other information. If you have additions to the agenda, please > email them to the WG list before the start of the telcon. > > Please also review our group page's task list [2] for accuracy and > completeness and be prepared to amend if necessary and accept it > at the beginning of the call. > > > Agenda > ====== > 1. Accepting the minutes from the last telcon [3] and > the current task status [2] (have any questions, comments, > or corrections ready by the beginning of the call). > > Regrets from DV. > > > 2. Miscellaneous administrivia and document reviews. > > XML clarification > ----------------- > Norm sent email about < in attribute values at > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2007Apr/0006 > > Glenn's proposed wording is at > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2007May/0024 > and slightly modified by > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2007May/0030 > > ACTION to Francois: Add this to the PE document for countdown. > > EXI first WD > ------------ > Title: Efficient XML Interchange (EXI) Format 1.0 > Pre pub URI: http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/EXI/docs/format/exi.html > Post pub TR URI: http://www.w3.org/TR/exi/ > > John's review is at > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2007Aug/0012 > > ACTION to John: Send in the technical comments with a note > that we have higher level comments to come. > > Paul sent in a suggestion that we might discuss this at the TP > (but it isn't clear we will). > > > 3. C14N > > The C14N 1.1 Candidate Recommendation is published at > http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/CR-xml-c14n11-20070621 > > Known Issues with Canonical XML 1.0 (C14N/1.0) WG Note > has been published at > http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/NOTE-C14N-issues-20061220/ > > Using XML Digital Signatures in the 2006 XML Environment > WG Note has been published at > http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/NOTE-DSig-usage-20061220/ > > Regarding C14N 1.1: > Konrad had pointed out some issues with Appendix A. He sent email > with the latest suggested updated version of Appendix A and examples: > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2007Jun/0050 > > There is another thread on C14N 1.1 at > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2007Aug/thread.ht > ml#msg18 > > > 4. xml:base, [baseURI], and IRIs -> HRRIs > > The (Second Edition) PER has been published at > http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/PER-xmlbase-20061220/ > > It's now waiting for us to say what should happen next--whether > we want a Director's call now or not. > > We need to remember to correct the IP part of the Status section per > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-linking-comments/2007JanMar/ > 0000 > > Mike Kay thinks the defn of XML Resource Identifier is too vague. > > We decided to write an RFC to define XML Resource Identifier. > The plan is to get this to an RFC and then reference it from > XML Base (which we can then take to REC) and others. > > > 4.5. HRRI RFC > > The latest HRRI draft was published as an ID on May 14 at > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-walsh-tobin-hrri-01.txt > > The most recent editor's draft is at > http://www.w3.org/XML/2007/04/hrri/draft-walsh-tobin-hrri-01c.html > > Henry sent email to I18N Core suggesting our LEIRI solution at > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2007Aug/0032 > but we have received no reply. > > Paul raised this issue at this week's XML CG, and the CG chair > was charged with trying to improve communication with I18N. > > > 5. XLink update. > > The XLink CR was published at > http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/CR-xlink11-20060328/ > > The latest almost PR-ready XLink draft is at > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2004/xmlcore/xlink11/ > > Norm posted a DoC at > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2006/10/xlink11-doc.html > > Paul wrote a SECOND draft PR request at > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2006Dec/0059 > > ACTION to Norm: Complete resolution of DoC. > > ACTION to WG (need volunteer): Update the Implementation Report. > > ACTION to Norm: Produce PR-ready draft. > > ACTION to Norm: Produce diff/review version. > > HOWEVER, the actions here are pending until we get the HRRI > RFC since we plan to reference it from XLink. > > > 6. XML 1.0/1.1 4th/2nd Editions published 2006 August 16: > > Extensible Markup Language (XML) 1.0 (Fourth Edition) > http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xml-20060816 > > Extensible Markup Language (XML) 1.1 (Second Edition) > http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xml11-20060816 > > ACTION to Francois: Process PE 152 and 153 as accepted errata. > > ACTION to Francois: Put PE 157 into countdown. > > ACTION to Francois: Put PE 158 into countdown. > > ACTION to Richard: Look at PE156 at > http://www.w3.org/XML/2006/08/proposed-xml10-4e-and-xml11-2e-errata.html > #PE156 > and comment. > > ---- > > Henry/Richard discussed the test suite issues raised by Frans Englich: > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-testsuite/2007Mar/ > > These need to be resolved. > > Richard reports that the 2005 issue has been resolved in the latest > draft. > > The one from 2006, character references with numbers with dozens > of digits, may not be. > > ACTION: Richard to construct a test case for these issues. > > > 7. Namespaces in XML 1.0/1.1 2nd Editions published 2006 August 16: > > Namespaces in XML 1.0 (Second Edition) > http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xml-names-20060816 > > Namespaces in XML 1.1 (Second Edition) > http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-xml-names11-20060816 > > Richard has recorded Anne's issue/proposed resolution at > http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2001/05/proposed-xml-names-errata#NPE27 > > > 8. Liam requests we discuss XML 1.1 deployment. > > He listed three deployment blockers to XML 1.1 use: > > 1. We broke compatibility: not all 1.0 documents will remain > well-formed XML if you put a 1.1 declaration on top of it. > > 2. Not all software will support 1.1, so fewer people are > willing to (try to) use it. > > 3. Some people want to put binary data within their XML, > but they are not well served by 1.1. (Neither does 1.0, > but some folks hoped that 1.1 would solve this, and when > they found this was not the case, 1.1 held no benefit > for them.) > > Liam suggests the way forward: > > 1. Change XML 1.1 to relieve some of these anxieties: > revert both C0 and C1 control character handling to > be the way it is in 1.0. > > 2. Allow all 1.x processors to process any 1.x document > for all x. That was refined to: allow any 1.x processor > to process a document labeled with any 1.y version value > even though such a processor may not make it to the > end of the document and/or produce the same results. > > 3. If we reinstate the C1 controls, we've made a backward > incompatible change to 1.1, so we either need to make a 1.2 > or to rescind 1.1 (or both). > > Konrad asked how this might affect namespaces 1.1. We might > have to version that to namespaces 1.2 also. > > > [1] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core > [2] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#tasks > [3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2007Aug/0031 > > >
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