- From: Grosso, Paul <pgrosso@ptc.com>
- Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 09:26:41 -0500
- To: <public-xml-core-wg@w3.org>
We have an XML Core WG phone call scheduled for Wednesday, November 2, from 08:00-09:00 Pacific time aka 11:00-12:00 Eastern time aka 16:00-17:00 UTC 16:00-17:00 in Ireland and the UK 17:00-18:00 in middle (most of) Europe 21:30-22:30 in most of India on the Zakim W3C Bridge, +1 617 761 6200, passcode 9652#. We also use IRC channel #xmlcore on irc.w3.org:6665 . See the XML Core group page [1] for pointers to current documents and other information. If you have additions to the agenda, please email them to the WG list before the start of the telcon. Please also review our group page's task list [2] for accuracy and completeness and be prepared to amend if necessary and accept it at the beginning of the call. ********************************************************* Note, come November 2, North America, UK, and Europe will all be observing standard time (as opposed to daylight time). Since our telcons are anchored in Boston time, the local time should not change for anyone in NA, UK, or Europe but will be an hour later local time for participants in India. ********************************************************** Leonid sends regrets through to Nov 16th. Agenda ====== 1. Accepting the minutes from the last telcon [3] and the current task status [2] (have any questions, comments, or corrections ready by the beginning of the call). 2. Miscellaneous administrivia and document reviews. Chris Lilley asks about xml:base and IRI: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2005Oct/0004 Norm thinks we should change the bib ref from 2986 to 3986. Section 3.1 should say any xml:base should first have spaces escaped to %20 and then have the IRI changed to a URI per 3987. We should have uniform language for XLink 1.1, XLink 1.0, xml:base, xinclude, XML 1.0, and XML 1.1 (as errata for all but XLink 1.1). There is some question as to whether we should bother to make an erratum for XLink 1.0, but we did not resolve this. ACTION to JohnC: Compose some language for all the specs. 3. XLink update. The LC WD of XLink 1.1 has been published: http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/WD-xlink11-20050707/ We have comments at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-linking-comments/2005JulSep/ ACTION to Norm: Reply as feasible and bring issues worth discussing to the WG via email. 4. XML errata. The published 1.0 errata document is [8], the published 1.1 errata document is [9], and the new (public) Potential Errata (PE) document is [7]. ACTION to Francois: Update the PE document including issues raised on public-xml-testsuite@w3.org. We have a couple issues in the PE document in countdown until this telcon. JohnC did a scan for MUST/SHOULD and reported at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2005Oct/0015 Hnery would like to see a marked up version of the document highlighting the proposed changes. John agrees to do that. ACTION to John: Review the MAYs again and create a marked up version with changes. 5. Namespaces in XML. Richard suggested we take NS 1.1 and revert the two substantive changes (IRI and undeclared namespaces) to create NS 1.0 2nd Ed. The WG has consensus to do that, and we got approval from the team to do so. Ongoing ACTION to Richard: Produce a draft for NS1.0 2nd Ed. We note that the IRI spec is now finished-RFC 3987-so we have to issue an erratum for NS 1.1 for this. We discussed some details of this under the XLink discussion: http://www.w3.org/XML/2005/02/xml-f2f-20050303-minutes.htm#xlink Briefly, 3987 does have some wording (the "MAY" paragraph) about what used to be called unwise characters. For the NS 1.1 erratum, the MAY paragraph doesn't apply since namespace names cannot have the unwise characters. (The MAY paragraph will be needed for XML 1.* system identifiers.) ACTION to Richard: Process an erratum to NS 1.1 to refer to RFC 3987: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3987.txt 6. Xinclude Rec was published 2004 December 30 at: http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-xinclude-20041220/ Our XInclude potential errata document is at: http://www.w3.org/XML/2005/01/proposed-xinclude-errata Daniel has updated the Errata document at http://www.w3.org/2004/12/xinclude-errata Elliotte's results are not included in our Implementation Report at http://www.w3.org/XML/2004/xinclude-implementation/report.html as he reports in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-xinclude-comments/2005Jul/00 12 ACTION to Richard: Run ERH's tests through the other implementations and add the results to the XInclude IR. ERH's tests are in the CVS repository for the test suite. ACTION to Daniel: Run ERH's tests through libxml and provide Richard with a report. Richard will ask ERH for his results if he can't find them. 7. xml:id is a Recommendation, published 2005 Sept 9: http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/REC-xml-id-20050909/ 8. Associating stylesheets--awaiting TAG action. Henry reports that the HTML CG has been discussing this for a while. They are developing a draft statement of the issue, and Chris Lilley will raise this at the XML CG. Chris started the discussion on the XML CG list--see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xml-cg/2005Jul/thread.html#15 The XML CG will continue to discuss it for a while. 9. C14N is listed in our charter: Canonical XML version 1.1 The work on xml:id uncovered some inconsistencies in Canonical XML version 1.0 (see xml:id CR, Appendix C, "Impacts on Other Standards"). The Working Group will produce a new version of Canonical XML to address those inconsistencies, as well as others that might be discovered at a later stage. Glenn sent some thoughts at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2005Oct/0019 He introduced the idea of "scoped" (inherited) attributes. Henry wants to mention xml:space and xml:lang explicitly as the scoped (inherited) attributes. We don't need to use the word "scoped" or "inherited", but we do need to say that "the following steps" are for xml:space and xml:lang only. If we ever do add a new "inherited" attribute to the xml namespace, it would not be treated as "inherited" by C14N unless we reissue C14N. (Norm points out an application could still treat it as inherited.) ACTION to Glenn: Send out new rewording per our above discussion. [1] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core [2] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#tasks [3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2005Oct/0021 [7] http://www.w3.org/XML/2004/02/proposed-xml10-3e-and-xml11-errata.html [8] http://www.w3.org/XML/xml-V10-3e-errata [9] http://www.w3.org/XML/xml-V11-1e-errata
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