- From: Gregory J. Rosmaita <oedipus@hicom.net>
- Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:49:52 +0000
- To: public-xhtml2@w3.org
aloha! what follows is a quick recap of the XHTML Role discussion at the last PF WG telecon (2009-11-11) during the course of the call, we were joined by George Kerscher and Markus Grylling of DAISY. it was stressed that DAISY has always tried to keep strict adherence to W3C specs as a W3C member organization. as members of the XHTML2 WG working group know well, DAISY had been planning to base the next iteration of the digital talking books standard on XHTML2, DAISY is now searching for viable options which will also "mainstream" digital talking books, by providing a vocabulary based on a standard which can be interpreted/delivered to users via non-specialized technology (in other words, a browser) since work on XHTML2 within the W3C has been halted, DAISY needs to investigate alternate possibilities. DAISY stressed that it was exploring 3 strategies: 1. adopt the XHTML Role Module (continue development under PF or in another open forum; 2. DAISY defines what is missing in the absence of XHTML Role on its own in its specification; drawback -- deviation from standards, limited use cases due to Role being a product of the digital talking book specification, rather than an independent specification which has great utility outside of the realm of digital talking books (Role to leverage mash-ups, perform GreaseMonkey and AccessMonkey type repairs, etc.) 3. work with the HTML5 WG -- with PF working by DAISY's side -- working with HTML5 WG and the new HTML A11y Task Force to specify means and mechanisms of defining what is needed so that DAISY can procede in HTML5; the "big gain" of the third strategy is that a good UA could also serve as a DAISY reader with profound benefits for ALL readers Markus stressed that what DAISY needs is distributed extensibility -- ideally, DAISY needs an XHTML family member to have hooks for accessibility, something which can be achieved by using the role attribute as defined by XHTML2 WG (extensible roles) or DAISY could develop a CDF namespace within or without the W3C. the goal, as markus has stressed many times in the past, is maximum compatibility; want to reuse browser components in DAISY software and even erase the line seperating the two, so that a DTB reader is nearly ubiquitously available Markus also stated that DAISY has begun to investigate @role in HTML5, although HTML5 is only a "highlight iteration, not a viable option now" Markus also expressed DAISY's interest in Liam Quinn's "imaginary namespaces" proposal aired at TPAC 2009 -- although Liam's proposal has not received the attention or traction which was expected, DAISY could perhaps leverage its needs and membership to have the W3C further explore work on "imaginary namespaces" in order to utilize HTML5 as a basis for the next iteration to DAISY, profound changes -- especially on the question of the use of @role in HTML5 and on the need for distributed extensibility. therefore, DAISY currently supports LiamQ's proposal, and broadening the DAISY purview from book-centric to a more universal informational exchange and packaging format, with exciting possibilities in regards the standardization of medical records, legal records, and other such important and ubiquitous needs that transcend the traditional understanding of accessibility. additionally, like the XHTML Role Module, a role attribute in HTML5 would need to support multiple roles on a single element. in concluding his remarks to the PF WG, markus stressed that in order to facillitate expansion of roles beyond a core list of values, the original XHTML Role would be optimal, with a few additions to support data formatting and exchange which are inseperable from the concept of a digital talking book: node or annotation reference, pagebreaks, footnotes, annotations, sidebars, etc. that's a synopsis of the conversation held within PF WG so far -- markus can correct me or clarify any queries about DAISY and the role attribute, gregory. ---------------------------------------------------------------- CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. -- Ambrose Bierce, _The Devil's Dictionary_ ---------------------------------------------------------------- Gregory J. Rosmaita, oedipus@hicom.net Camera Obscura: http://www.hicom.net/~oedipus/index.html ----------------------------------------------------------------
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