- From: Mark Birbeck <mark.birbeck@x-port.net>
- Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 12:04:07 +0000
- To: "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <oedipus@hicom.net>
- Cc: "Roland Merrick" <roland_merrick@uk.ibm.com>, public-xhtml2@w3.org
Hi Gregory,
"seealso" has very strong connotations in RDF, and would generally be
expected to define a relationship, not an 'element type'.
I'd suggest that we use some other name to describe this, if it's
really needed. (And I'm not so sure it is needed, since I think RDFa
would do the job in a more precise way...)
Regards,
Mark
On 05/03/2008, Gregory J. Rosmaita <oedipus@hicom.net> wrote:
>
> regrets for the 5 march 2008 call
>
> shane, PF is actively working on getting verbiage to you for Role -- i
> know it is frustrating that you haven't been able to push a final draft,
> but the PFWG is dedicated to getting it right, and if you would like to
> chime in on what's been discussed so far on w3c-wai-pf, PLEASE do --
> there seems to be critical mass support for the secondary role, but the
> "seealso" role is still proving "semantically" problematic, and i'm
> beginning to think that "seealso" should simply be "annotation" -- at
> least that's my impression based on PF's monday ARIA sub committee
> call, minutes of which contained in w3c-wai-pf archives,
>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-wai-pf/
>
> which are member-confidential; specific pointers follow:
>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-wai-pf/2008JanMar/0269.html
> http://www.w3.org/2008/03/03-pf-minutes.html
>
> gregory.
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> ---------- Original Message -----------
> From: Roland Merrick <roland_merrick@uk.ibm.com>
> To: public-xhtml2@w3.org
> Sent: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 10:25:42 +0000
> Subject: [XHTML] Agenda 2008-03-05
>
> > Greetings, our next call takes place on 2008-03-05, Please look
> > at the actions recorded against you and clear as many as you can.
> >
> > Wednesday 14:00UTC,
> >
> >
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2008&month=3&day=5&hour=14&min=0&sec=0&p1=136&p2=179&p3=215&p4=248&p5=283
> > Zakim bridge, code 94865 ("XHTML"),
> > irc channel irc.w3.org #xhtml.
> >
> > Previous minutes: http://www.w3.org/2008/02/13-xhtml-minutes,
> > http://www.w3.org/2008/02/18-xhtml-minutes,
> > http://www.w3.org/2008/02/19-xhtml-minutes,
> > http://www.w3.org/2008/02/20-xhtml-minutes
> >
> > Regrets: None
> >
> > Candidate minute takers: Tina, Rich, Shane, Gregory, Roland,
> > Steven, Mark,
> >
> > Announcements:
> >
> > Reports:
> >
> > Outstanding Reviews:
> > CSS Namespaces Module
> > http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-css3-namespace-20080215/
> > deadline for comments is 7 March 2008
> > ACTION: Steven review CSS Namesapces module
> > [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/18-xhtml-minutes.html#action05]
> >
> > Agenda Items:
> >
> > Timing of calls for rest of March and then for "Summer time"
> >
> > Technical Plenary and AC Meetings Week, 20-24 October 2008
> > XHTML2 F2F date preference
> >
> > CURIE transition to Last Call: status
> > ACTION: Shane to upload final CURIEs draft
> > [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/18-xhtml-minutes.html#action01]
> > ACTION: Steven to Draft last call announcement
> > [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/18-xhtml-minutes.html#action02]
> > ACTION: Shane to add a non-normative schema implementation to
> > CURIE spec [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/12-xhtml-
> > minutes.html#action05]
> >
> > M12N transition to CR: status
> >
> > XHTML Basic 1.1 transition to Proposed Recommendation: status
> >
> > XHTML 1.1 SE status
> > waiting on M12N
> > ACTION: Shane - add input mode to XHTML 1.1 second edition
> > [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/18-xhtml-
> > minutes.html#action01] ACTION: Group to reissue Ruby with
> > schema additions [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/19-
> > xhtml-minutes.html#action06] ACTION: Mark creates integration
> > set example [recorded in
> http://www.w3.org/2007/08/15-xhtml-minutes.html#action03]
> >
> > RDFa Syntax
> > ACTION: Steven to reply to TAG that we disagree.
> > [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/20-xhtml-minutes.html#action06]
> > ACTION: Shane add a note that there is a risk that humans might
> > perceive a CURIE as a URI. [recorded in
> > http://www.w3.org/2008/02/20-xhtml-minutes.html#action03]
> >
> > Role Attribute Module
> > ACTION: Roland to reply to issue 8001
> > [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/18-xhtml-minutes.html#action04]
> > [reply:
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2008JanMar/0011.html]
> > ACTION: Shane to add text explaining why some text is in orange
> > [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/18-xhtml-minutes.html#action03]
> > ACTION: Shane to ensure all Role attribute module changes are
> > complete by 28 February - including new text from WAI folks.
> > [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/20-xhtml-minutes.html#action07]
> >
> > ACTION: Shane produce disposition of comments of document for
> > xhtml-role in preparation for a second last call. [recorded in
> > http://www.w3.org/2008/02/06-xhtml-minutes.html#action04]
> >
> > XHTML2 wiki
> > What do we want to use it for?
> > Should we also have a blog?
> > ACTION: Roland to include this Wiki issue in the upcoming
> > teleconf agenda. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/20-
> > xhtml-minutes.html#action09]
> >
> > XHTML 2
> > ACTION: Steven to organise a new draft of XHTML2
> > [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/18-xhtml-minutes.html#action06]
> > ACTION: Steven to add text to embedding module saying how it
> > works [recorded in
> http://www.w3.org/2008/02/19-xhtml-minutes.html#action01]
> >
> > Access Module
> > ACTION: Shane to add language to seciton 3.1.1 of xhtml-access
> > to require user agent override of the activate attribute setting
> > [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/20-xhtml-minutes.html#action04]
> >
> > XML Events 2
> > ACTION: Shane to update intro to XML Events to reflect its
> > current scope of Handlers and Events. [recorded in
> > http://www.w3.org/2008/02/19-xhtml-minutes.html#action02]
> > ACTION: Shane to update "Introduction"(HTML->XHTML) and
> > references to DOM3. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/19-
> > xhtml-minutes.html#action03] ACTION: Shane to migrate @if and
> > @while from listener element to the handler elements [recorded
> > in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/19-xhtml-minutes.html#action04]
> > ACTION: Shane to ensure that all listener events are shown on
> > all elements in the Handler module. [recorded in
> > http://www.w3.org/2008/02/19-xhtml-minutes.html#action05]
> > ACTION: Shane to add text about context issue near where if and
> > while are described with the action element in xml events 2
> > [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/20-xhtml-minutes.html#action01]
> > ACTION: Shane add a note that events do not bridge two DOMs
> > [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/20-xhtml-minutes.html#action02]
> >
> > June face2face
> > ACTION: Shane to set up meeting location for June 17 - 19.
> > [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/20-xhtml-minutes.html#action08]
> >
> > ISSUES:
> >
> > More issues, see:
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-html-wg/2006OctDec/0076
> >
> > ACTIONS:
> >
> > Gregory:
> >
> > ACTION: Gregory to put together a proposal for how to connect
> > the access module into the event model. [recorded in
> > http://www.w3.org/2007/06/13-xhtml-minutes.html#action01]
> >
> > Mark:
> >
> > Rich:
> > ACTION: Rich to sort out the proposal from Gregory as captured
> > in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-
> > html/2007May/0341.html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/26-
> > xhtml-irc]
> >
> > Roland:
> >
> > Shane:
> > ACTION: Shane to start implementing xml schema for xhtml 2.0
> > [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/08-xhtml-
> > minutes.html#action01] ACTION: Shane to split 8024 into two
> > issues. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/12-xhtml-
> > minutes.html#action04] ACTION: ShaneM to produce a vocabulary
> > document that will go at the vocab# URI and use RDFa to annotate
> > the items. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/19-xhtml-
> > minutes.html#action02] ACTION: Shane to check bug in Basic 1.1
> > [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/30-xhtml-minutes.html#action02]
> >
> > Steven:
> >
> > ACTION: Steven convey reply about media type to pertinent
> > parties [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/03-xhtml-
> > minutes.html#action01] ACTION: Steven to reply to DanC's three
> > comments on role [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/05-xhtml-
> > minutes.html#action01] ACTION: Steven reply to Schema comments
> > [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/15-xhtml-
> > minutes.html#action01] ACTION: Steven to get advice from I18N
> > group about international form of URIs [recorded in
> > http://www.w3.org/2007/06/20-xhtml-minutes.html#action03]
> > ACTION: Steven to check Shane's schema comments [recorded in
> > http://www.w3.org/2007/05/02-xhtml-minutes.html#action02]
> > ACTION: Steven to create some role use cases [recorded in
> > http://www.w3.org/2007/04/25-xhtml-minutes.html#action02]
> > ACTION: Steven to propose a rephrasing of the about atribute
> > inheritance rules. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-
> > html-minutes.html#action05] ACTION: Steven to reply to
> > Alapetites message on datatypes [recorded in
> > http://www.w3.org/2007/02/21-html-minutes.html#action01] ACTION:
> > Steven to reply to hr comment, and make it a CR comment
> > [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/19-xhtml-
> > minutes.html#action08] ACTION: Steven to reply to script+cdata
> > mail, saying we don't want to document it [recorded in
> > http://www.w3.org/2007/09/19-xhtml-minutes.html#action09]
> >
> > Yam:
> > None
> >
> > Regards, Roland
> > FBCS, CITP
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> >
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> ------- End of Original Message -------
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