- From: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 20:14:57 +0100
- To: Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net>
- Cc: WebID XG <public-xg-webid@w3.org>
On 10 January 2012 18:49, Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net> wrote: > Thanks Melvin. > > So this was a very helpful meeting, but we forgot to scribe. Some bribes of what was talked about is here: > > http://www.w3.org/2012/01/10-webid-minutes.html > > But we need to fill in the rest for those who could not attend. Please help me fill out pieces I missed. > > 1. Coralie Mercier joined > > Coralie helped give us an overview of our move to the Community Group. > + we keep our wiki as it is > + we keep the same mailing list name > + we get all the new features of community groups (such as microblogging 😲 ! ) > + we even retain all the W3C XG support, so Caralie can still help us. > - we will all have to sign in again whether we are members or not > (because we have to sign that something about patents) > > 2. e-mail volume > > It was mentioned that some people don't participate because of the volume of messages. They have a lot of knowledge > but have a lot of other priorities. So we need if possible to give them space to participate. > > So I suggested the following > > 1. Rate reduction: never post more than one e-mail per hour, or wait 1 or 2 hours before responding. > 2. Increase quality: > + try to move towards testable issues, with use cases, and carefully laid out examples > + try to remove as much that is not essential to the discussion, for short understandable posts > + expressing things in clear language, using well understood language form w3c or ietf > + think abut english > => Given the rate reduction above and general acceptance of moving towards testable issues, this should allow > people who are perhaps better at building consensus to join the conversation. > > (I myself posted way too quickly yesterday. It was fun, but we are going to loose contributors that way) > > 3. Adding a security section to the spec > > A bit along the lines of the OpenID one > http://openid.net/specs/openid-authentication-2_0.html#security_considerations > Other good examples? > We could discuss some of the issues Peter Williams has brought up such as denial of service attacks. > > > 4. Tim Berners Lee joined > > Tim said a lot and I forgot a lot of what he said. So please help me fill this in, and I may have misremembered > I asked what needs to be done to get towards a standard. > Tim mentioned the writing of a charter would help. A full WG would: > - need to develop interoperable test suites > - we should make even clearer how WebID is meant to work with existing browsers > - different webid profiles > - ... > There is nothing stopping us working on this before. The writing of a chatter would then get us feedback. > > 5. Mike Jones said he would work on a first version of the charter > > 6. We chatted with Wendy Seltzer on irc who just joined the W3C. > http://wendy.seltzer.org/ > She has worked with TOR and Berkman centre. > > 7. We discussed some plans on how we are going to take over the word. But those are secret. 😁 That's a pretty good wrapup, henry. Some time was also spent discussing the possible overlap between browserid. IIRC alternate authentication methods such as oauth / openid / gpg we touched on. I guess the new CG will be more informal, tho there will be effort put into finishing the spec and creating a high quality charter for potential next steps. Tim pointed out that there are occasions on which the purpose of an XG is to get the charter for a WG up to a very good standard. > > Henry > > On 10 Jan 2012, at 17:28, Melvin Carvalho wrote: > >> On 10 January 2012 15:33, Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net> wrote: >>> The conf call number is the same as the one below but with the new extension >>> >>> extension: 26632 >>> >>> Please join us on IRC. Coralie Mercier should be joining us 10 minutes into the talk to help us understand the transition. >> >> Thank Henry for chairing, and for all the effort and work you've put >> on over the last year. >> >> Look forward to continuing progress in the Community Group. >> >>> >>> >>> Henry >>> >>> On 10 Jan 2012, at 14:59, Melvin Carvalho wrote: >>> >>>> Just a reminder ... the final telecon of the XG will be in 1 hour ... >>>> >>>> On 6 January 2012 15:16, Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net> wrote: >>>>> This is our last meeting as an XG. We will it seems continue as a Community Group after this. >>>>> >>>>> - Meeting Agenda: >>>>> >>>>> + Improvements to the spec >>>>> Over the weekend I will add all the improvements suggested over the last month to the spec and the ontology >>>>> So we can have some quick feedback on this >>>>> + Question: should RDFa be reduced from MUST to nice to have until the dust settles? >>>>> + What needs to be done on closing the XG? >>>>> + What remains to be done before we can finalise the spec? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Time: 1500 UTC >>>>> W3C Zakim bridge, telecon code: WEBID (93243) >>>>> SIP: zakim@voip.w3.org >>>>> Phone US: +1.617.761.6200 >>>>> Phone UK: +44.203.318.0479 >>>>> Phone FR: +33.4.26.46.79.03 >>>>> irc://irc.w3.org:6665/#webid >>>>> Duration: 60 minutes >>>>> >>>>> For the time in all time zones see: >>>>> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=1&day=10&year=2012&hour=15&min=00&sec=0&p1=0 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I am not sure if we can get the zakim slot at that time. Perhaps we should meet on Skype otherwise. I'll send an update later. >>>>> The time was decided on this doodle http://www.doodle.com/3h46cpzbhackiikx >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Henry >>> >>> Social Web Architect >>> http://bblfish.net/ >>> > > Social Web Architect > http://bblfish.net/ >
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