Re: Thankyou for saving my sanity...

Try the consumer side exercise using Microdara instead of RDFa . Sod the politics.

Kingsley

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On Jan 7, 2012, at 5:44 PM, Jürgen Jakobitsch <j.jakobitsch@semantic-web.at> wrote:

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serenity_Prayer
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> wkr j
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Williams" <home_pw@msn.com>
> To: "j jakobitsch" <j.jakobitsch@semantic-web.at>
> Cc: public-xg-webid@w3.org
> Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2012 11:16:54 PM
> Subject: RE: Thankyou for saving my sanity...
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> So I did it on my "programmers" web site- where Im acting unconsumer-like (built a special purpose web app). 
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> And, on my blogspot account, I added the meta-link to the template. But, AS A CONSUMER i cannot set the content type (of a server). 
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> So here we have a conundrum. 
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> The ONLY THING THAT MAKES RDFa viable "politically" is that it works in the crappy web as-is (used by 1 or 2 billion folks). It doesnt need web upgrade, or powers that the typical consumer does not have. it is supposed to work with everyone's HTML editor (even one 10 years old) uploading to an 10 year old web endpoint. 
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> Now, we have broken that rule, by requiring something other than text/html. 
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> Now, as as consumer, I have no choice but to subscribe to a SEMWEB-SPECIFIC identity management system (like ODS). I cannot just use a web page. 
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> Now, Im torn. For CONFORMANCE TESTING (and debugging), I dont mind such literalism. For products, I expect product to back off, insisting on only 80% compliance (trading off security, correctness for perfect compliance). I expect product to do that which works (even if the engineering quality goes down a bit). 
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>> Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 22:25:47 +0100 
>> From: j.jakobitsch@semantic-web.at 
>> To: home_pw@msn.com 
>> CC: public-xg-webid@w3.org 
>> Subject: Re: Thankyou for saving my sanity... 
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>> hi again, 
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>> you now have "application/xhtml+xml" in a meta-tag [1] like so 
>> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="application/xhtml+xml;charset=utf-8"/> 
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>> this is very good, but only half the way. 
>> you need to set a header also, currently your page presents itself to the parser still as text/html. 
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>> in a jsp i do 
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>> <%@page contentType="application/xhtml+xml"%> 
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>> wkr j 
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>> [1] http://idweb.cloudapp.net:8080/Home/About 
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>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Jürgen Jakobitsch" <j.jakobitsch@semantic-web.at> 
>> To: "Peter Williams" <home_pw@msn.com> 
>> Cc: public-xg-webid@w3.org 
>> Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2012 1:35:12 AM 
>> Subject: Re: Thankyou for saving my sanity... 
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>> hi peter, 
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>> one more thing : 
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>> for 12 points, you should change the content-type of your rdfa-profile to application/xhtml+xml, see here [1], 
>> i did the same with my testing-rdfa-profile [2] today. 
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>> at this point of time, webIDRealm uses the rdfa parser, when the content-type is text/html or application/xhtml+xml, 
>> but i might/will change this to only application/xhtml+xml. 
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>> wkr j 
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>> [1] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/ 
>> [2] http://2sea.org/sea.jsp#j 
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>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Peter Williams" <home_pw@msn.com> 
>> To: "j jakobitsch" <j.jakobitsch@semantic-web.at>, public-xg-webid@w3.org 
>> Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2012 12:48:31 AM 
>> Subject: Thankyou for saving my sanity... 
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>> http://tinyurl.com/7luhnnv 
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>> Your debug output gave the clue, and W3C validator did the rest. 
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>> All along it was a &, vs an "&amp;" 
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>> not only is there name/address duality, there is duality of encodings of meta-characters in the meta documents descirbing resources, bearing addresses that may be names (or not). 
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>> | Jürgen Jakobitsch, 
>> | Software Developer 
>> | Semantic Web Company GmbH 
>> | Mariahilfer Straße 70 / Neubaugasse 1, Top 8 
>> | A - 1070 Wien, Austria 
>> | Mob +43 676 62 12 710 | Fax +43.1.402 12 35 - 22 
>> 
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>> 
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>> | foaf : http://www.turnguard.com/turnguard 
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> 
> -- 
> | Jürgen Jakobitsch, 
> | Software Developer
> | Semantic Web Company GmbH
> | Mariahilfer Straße 70 / Neubaugasse 1, Top 8
> | A - 1070 Wien, Austria
> | Mob +43 676 62 12 710 | Fax +43.1.402 12 35 - 22
> 
> COMPANY INFORMATION
> | http://www.semantic-web.at/
> 
> PERSONAL INFORMATION
> | web   : http://www.turnguard.com
> | foaf  : http://www.turnguard.com/turnguard
> | skype : jakobitsch-punkt
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